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I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: 14G-K5 4166 I do not see any numbers on the drivers door pillar. Shouldn't there be numbers there which would match the title. Thanks > I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: > 14G-K5 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks Oughta be. If it's not too rusty, pull the little apron thing from under the rear bumper, and look to see if there's any numbers stamped in the rear frame crossmember. If you can't find them, I can show you the ones on my '55, they are still visible on my car. They will be stamped on one of the bottom flanges, facing the ground. Those should be the same numbers that were on your apparently missing serial number plate. I haven't been presented with your situation before, but I don't recall being asked to present any car for a serial number check in MD (or in any state but PA for that matter, and I've also lived in OH, VA, MD, and MI.) How's the car? Driver, project, parts...? nate  Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel They insisted on in in Nevada when I tried to register the 64 Cruiser there - they refused to register it because the plate appeared to have shifted slightly from it's original orientation and the numbers on the rear crossmember were either not there or couldn't be seen through the light rust coating. That Nevada DMV is tough! >> I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: >> 14G-K5 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > nate SignatureRemove the Studebaker to email. The only label that fits: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml 1950 Champion 1951 Starlight Coupe Custom 1953 Starlight Coupe 1954 Starlight Coupe R1/4-speed 1958 Silver Hawk 1960 Frua Italia Larks (2 - they're here!) 1962 Lark VI 1962 Lark Convertible 1963 Avanti R2 R4324 1963 Lark Daytona 1963 Lark Cruiser (R2 3/4 clone in progress) 1963 GT Hawk 1963 Daytona Wagonaire 1964 Cruiser (Survivor) 1954 3R11 1956 2E7 1985 Jeep CJ-7 2004 Porsche Carrera 4S 2002 Ducati 996 2002 Jeep Overland http://homepage.mac.com/pdrnec/PhotoAlbum81.html > They insisted on in in Nevada when I tried to register the 64 Cruiser > there - they refused to register it because the plate appeared to have > shifted slightly from it's original orientation and the numbers on the > rear crossmember were either not there or couldn't be seen through the > light rust coating. That Nevada DMV is tough! CT verifies the serial numbers, too. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB >> I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: >> 14G-K5 >> 4166 >> >> I do not see any numbers on the drivers door pillar. Shouldn't there be >> numbers there which would match the title. ...> I haven't been presented with your situation before, but I don't recall > being asked to present any car for a serial number check in MD (or in any > state but PA for that matter, and I've also lived in OH, VA, MD, and MI.) When I went to get a title for the '47 Commander that I bought in Annapolis years ago, I had to get the State Police to come out and verify the identity of the car. Part of the problem was Maryland used the engine number when it was last registered. I had changed the engine and there was no mention of the actual serial number on the title. Paul Johnson On Mar 28, 8:44 am, "Paul Johnson" <thejohns...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > >> I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: > >> 14G-K5 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the actual serial number on the title. > Paul Johnson Odd, I have registered my Scirocco, a 16V GTI, a turbo GTI, my 944, my 56J, my '62, and my '55 in Maryland and nobody has ever asked to verify the serial number. At least one of those cars had a title obtained from Broadway Title as well (because I was the first person to ever try to register the '62) wow, I've had too many cars... nate In Florida, they walk out and look at your serial number plate. They don't read it, but they take the walk out and look at it <g>... Jeff (Especially the smokers..) Rice PS: In Georgia, if it's old enough, they don't even need/want a title. They do it off of the bill of sale. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Same in RI. Anything over ten years does not require a title. OTOH, everything in TX is titled. Kind of a PIA... JT > In Florida, they walk out and look at your serial number plate. > They don't read it, but they take the walk out and look at it <g>... > Jeff (Especially the smokers..) Rice > PS: In Georgia, if it's old enough, they don't even need/want a title. They > do it off of the bill of sale. SC is the same, everything is titled... and don't try to bluff them with the "lost title" routine... they have records back to 1958. And it IS a PIA. Lee > Same in RI. Anything over ten years does not require a title. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> PS: In Georgia, if it's old enough, they don't even need/want a title. >> They do it off of the bill of sale. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I always call a deputy and have a few copies of the DMV verification form. They almost always mess the first one up. Long ago when I bought the Daytona, I had to have a VIN verification done as even though the car was tagged here in Florida it didn't have a Florida title..only had a previous AL. tag slip. Go figure... Anyway, dumbass me was in a hurry and didn't double check the officer and sure as sh.t he wrote down the BODY number... the hood was open... I turned it in to the DMV and got back a title with that number...and it is still on it. I never have bothered to fix it. Various insurance companies never questioned it over the years and my current one (American Collectors) hasn't either. I once bought a car that had it's MSO number on the title instead of the VIN. A clerk at DMV spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. Studebaker George Floriduh is such a dorky state... We moved last October to Georgia. Transferred the convertible and pickup insurance to Georgia. Bought new plates and transferred titles to Georgia (when they were due).. When the wife's drivers license came due she got her new Georgia drivers license. Then..... 5 months later we get a notice of suspension for her Floriduh drivers license. Seems her insurance had lapsed and the Floriduh DMV suspends your drivers license if your insurance lapses. Well, ours did lapse, but that's because we dropped it and moved out. And I told them so. I was told, that we had to provide proof of insurance to Floriduh's DMV (and a special Floriduh DMV section to boot) to get the suspension notice removed. When I asked why bother if it isn't in existence, I was told that if the wife were to get stopped in any of the lower 48 states, or Canada, the suspended drivers license would show up (due to interstate reciprocity) and she might get arrested. All do to the Patriot Act (according to the Floriduh DMV guy).. I was instructed how to provide them with the info the Floriduh DMV required so the Floriduh DMV could fix the stupid problem their own Floriduh DMV bureaucracy started..... Did I say Floriduh enough times? <grrrr lol> Jeff (Duhhhhh.as in Floriduhhhh...) Rice "Studebaker George" wrote... >I always call a deputy and have a few copies of the DMV verification > form. They almost always mess the first one up. Long ago when I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. > Studebaker George SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com MD does the same thing, if you do not return your plates to the MVA in person the same day your insurance drops. nate (BTDT... what a disaster... took over a year to straighten it out) > Floriduh is such a dorky state... > We moved last October to Georgia. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. >>Studebaker George Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com A rational thinking human being would expect that in this computer age, life should be simpler and much more straight forward. Not so... This past January, I served for eight days on a jury and yet, the measly check still hasn't arrived. When I called the county, they said no, it had not been paid yet but surely was in the "pipeline". Two friggin' months... Bah!!! JT (That's my MAD money they playin' with!) > Floriduh is such a dorky state... > We moved last October to Georgia. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. >>Studebaker George Are the court systems up to minimum wage for jury duty yet? Lee >A rational thinking human being would expect that in this computer age, >life should be simpler and much more straight forward. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. >>>Studebaker George SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Not quite. $40 per day. JT > Are the court systems up to minimum wage for jury duty yet? > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >>>>spotted that and dug throught the records to fix it. >>>>Studebaker George A owner from Pennsylvania called me once about what to do about the DMV wanted to see the secret serial number on the frame of his Stude. They would not licence it without seeing it. I told him to put the VIN number on a piece of Dymo tape and glue it to the back frame spray it with undercoat and blow dust on it. Go to an other DMV office that does not know about the missing number. He did that and the examiner looked under the car found the number on the frame and gave him the title. I am not sure if Dymo tape is still available. Bob Kapteyn > A owner from Pennsylvania called me once about what to do about the > DMV [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am not sure if Dymo tape is still available. > Bob Kapteyn just make sure you use an "I" for a "1" so it looks legit! LOL nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com IL does not read the plate unless a problem appears LOL. The Packard Hawk I have was read as 58L8 instead of 58LS. I did not even notice it till my insurance company commented on it not being a valid number. I went back to the DMV and they had me take the car to the local police to verify the serial number. The cop asked me what the form should say, looked the car over, called a couple of buddies out to look at the car and then put the number I had mentioned on the form. He never looked at the plate. But of course when I filed for a corrected title I got one back with exactly the same error on it. Only difference was that it now said Corrected Title on it. Took three tries before they finally got it right. >A owner from Pennsylvania called me once about what to do about the > DMV [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am not sure if Dymo tape is still available. > Bob Kapteyn Nate, It's an eBay car. No title. Seems pretty complete. Body tag is on the firewall but owner can't seem to find it on the door pillar, as my '58 had. Maybe there's a bunch of paint and he can't see it, although that sounds funny. I thought it was numbers stamped on the pillar, not a stamped tag that is somehow attached to the door. Anyway, I'm picking up the car this weekend. I hope I can find it or I'll look on the rear frame as you suggested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180093186337&ssPag eName=ADME:B:EF:US:11 Thanks for the help, Larry >> I bought a '53 two door hardtop with a plate on the firewall: >> 14G-K5 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > nate Hey N8, Sal and I just bought a nice 53 Starliner in California that's a running, driving car with a 289. <g> > Nate, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> nate SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander lalalalalalalaICANTHEARYOUUUUUU > Hey N8, Sal and I just bought a nice 53 Starliner in California that's > a running, driving car with a 289. <g> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> >>> nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Yea, but the guy wanted 5K for the damn thing. <g> > lalalalalalalaICANTHEARYOUUUUUU > >> Hey N8, Sal and I just bought a nice 53 Starliner in California >> that's a running, driving car with a 289. <g> SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander OK, can you find me a deal like that on a truck? Only a couple weeks until my friend's new vehicle arrives and if I haven't found anything by then I'll probably be driving an F-150. (that '72 I sent you the ad of turned out to be a nice driver but a bondo buggy.) nate > Yea, but the guy wanted 5K for the damn thing. <g> > >> lalalalalalalaICANTHEARYOUUUUUU >> >>> Hey N8, Sal and I just bought a nice 53 Starliner in California >>> that's a running, driving car with a 289. <g> Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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