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63Avanti - 31 Aug 2007 19:55 GMT

Good news after 2 months of research and shopping around...

If you use CI-4 or CI-4Plus, oil, you DO NOT need additives.
The November Issue of the Avanti Mag will have an extensive article on
this.

You can still find CI-4/CI-4Plus oils out there, but NOT at big box/
auto stores. In commercial and rural areas, you can easily find the
older stuff. I did a quick survey of VOA/PDS in preparation for the
article for the November Avanti mag. Below is a list of what I have
found "on the shelves" and meeting the criteria from the article.

>>>>After the research, I went to my local NAPA and bought the entire store stock of

NAPA Universal Fleet Plus, 15w-40, CI-4Plus, (high zinc/TBN/calcium).
At $9.55 per gallon, 2.39 per quart, it is tough to beat!<<<<

"Good Oils" from July 2007 study

> 15w-40 CI-4/Plus "Dino"

Best: Cummins/Valvoline Premium Blue Classic, Pennzoil Long Life,
Chevron Delo 400 (not "LE"), Kendall Super D 3, 76 Guardol QLT
Good: NAPA Universal Fleet Plus, Caterpillar DEO, John Deere Plus-50,
Lucas 15/40 Magnum,
Satisfactory: Castrol GTX Diesel, Motorcraft Super Duty, Pilot Premium
HD

> 5w-40 CI-4/Plus Synthetic

Best: Shell Rotella T Synthetic, Cummins/Valvoline Premium Blue Syn
Classic, Red Line Diesel Synthetic

These oils may be reformulated before you buy.
Do your research!

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dwcars - 31 Aug 2007 23:18 GMT

You can add both Citgard 500 and Citgard 600 in all weights from Citgo to
that list. Ignore the Chavez crap for a minute. I also found 28 cases of
the Citgo Superguard 10W-30 in Semi-Synthetic with an API rating of SJ;
(does not meet the new standards for lowered ZDDP content.)

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63Avanti - 01 Sep 2007 00:30 GMT

Citgo also makes Mystic JT-8, which comes in both dino and semi-
synth. I had to leave them off my chart due to not being able to
confirm their TBN/Ca/Zn composition. Someone send me either an
official PDS, or an independent VOA, and I would love to add them here
and in the prospective Avanti Magazine Article. I do know the Mystic
JT-8 was very well made 3 years ago, and even has a 15w50.

As for joke-a-minute Chavez, I love that guy. He keeps stealing from
his poor and nationalized oil workers to either give away billions
away to our poor, or to undercut US company's pricing, note Mystic's
price.

How he keeps from getting a bullet in his head from his own people,
for his massive subsidizing the great Satan US, I will never
understand.

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63Avanti - 05 Sep 2007 13:26 GMT

I am keeping most current information on Additives and Oils at
http://www.sterkel.org/avanti

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