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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2007U joint interchange
Went to the Napa store, bought the ujoints that they recommended. The ones with the clips on the outside. Looked at mine and said,"I think my clips are in the inside." They said,"Don't worry about it they will fit". "They have used these u Joints from 1950 on." Took it apart on Labor day weekend, while they are closed. NOT the right U joints. I have a 1962 GT Hawk. So what part number should I give to a parts person this weekend. And it needs to simple, for the computers. Like, " I need these for 1988 Mercury Montego" wink,wink. Thanks Malcom You need a Spicer style joint and I think N8 has them on his page. > Went to the Napa store, bought the ujoints that they recommended. > The ones with the clips on the outside. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Montego" wink,wink. > Thanks Malcom  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Lark 2 door 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 58 Scotsman 53 Starliner 52 Starliner 51 Commander 39 Coupe Express 39 Coupe Express (body) > You need a Spicer style joint and I think N8 has them on his page. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I thought the Spicer type WAS the type with the clips on the outside. Mechanics type u-joint has the clips on the inside, right? Sounds like Malcolm needs the type with the clips on the inside.....Mechanics type. Paul >>You need a Spicer style joint and I think N8 has them on his page. >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Paul yeah I think so and I don't have that part number. sounds like the car got a driveshaft from a '63 or '64 at some point in the past. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Something isn't right with the car. It sounds as if NAPA sold you the correct Spicer joint, which would fit '62 and prior. If your driveshaft has the internal clips, it has the Mechanix joints. These were used in '63 and some '64s. I suspect a later driveshaft was installed at some point. Note: The front and rear joints are different. The bearing cups in the differential yoke need to be slightly larger than the shaft cups. Using a front joint on the rear can lead to vibration problems. Expect to pay a lot more for the Mechanix joints versus the Spicer. I found the receipt. On 8/12/95 I replaced the Rear Mechanix joint on my '63. It came from NAPA P/N 505. List $25.42, Net $17.49. Under "Line" it lists NUJ. This should bring closure to identifying the universal joints. I found a post it note, in my parts book. Titled U-Joints: NAPA 369 - Spicer. '62 and prior, plus most '64, and all '65-'66. NAPA 429 - Mechanix front. All '63 and a few '64s. NAPA 505 Mechanix rear. All '63 and a few '64s On Sep 2, 10:19 am, keith_kichef...@wed.dresser.com wrote: > This should bring closure to identifying the universal joints. I > found a post it note, in my parts book. Titled U-Joints: NAPA 369 - > Spicer. '62 and prior, plus most '64, and all '65-'66. > NAPA 429 - Mechanix front. All '63 and a few '64s. > NAPA 505 Mechanix rear. All '63 and a few '64s I'll have to make a note of that... the Spicer number matches the one I have for Precision so NAPA numbers must be the same.. nate Precision was a good US based (Chicago) company. They sold out to IFI (Fiat..The old Italian monarchy) in the 70's... IFI had Chicago Rawhide selling Precision in the 8-'s and 90's... IFI bought CR in the 70's when the founders of C/R did their IPO on Safety'Kleen, so C/R U-joints were Precision U-Joints in a green box. Federal-Mogul (who owns Neapco) bought Precision from IFI. That's how the numbering system got the way it is....for now... <lol> Jeff (Tender of useless corporate knowledge) Rice "N8N" wrote... > I'll have to make a note of that... the Spicer number matches the one > I have for Precision so NAPA numbers must be the same.. > On Sep 2, 10:19 am, keith wrote: >> This should bring closure to identifying the universal joints. I >> found a post it note, in my parts book. Titled U-Joints: NAPA 369 - >> Spicer. '62 and prior, plus most '64, and all '65-'66. >> NAPA 429 - Mechanix front. All '63 and a few '64s. >> NAPA 505 Mechanix rear. All '63 and a few '64s SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > This should bring closure to identifying the universal joints. I > found a post it note, in my parts book. Titled U-Joints: NAPA 369 - > Spicer. '62 and prior, plus most '64, and all '65-'66. > NAPA 429 - Mechanix front. All '63 and a few '64s. > NAPA 505 Mechanix rear. All '63 and a few '64s OK, I've added the numbers to my interchange; but now I'm curious. Why do Spicer shafts use the same joints front and rear but the Mechanics style have different joints? What is the difference between the front and rear Mechanics joints? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel The two cups for 505 are slightly larger in outside diameter, for the differential yoke on the '63. This would make the cups for the yoke the same diameter as all of the spicer cups. Tightening the U-bolts onto a smaller cup distorts and chips the bolt holes in the yoke. KK > keith_kichef...@wed.dresser.com wrote: > > This should bring closure to identifying the universal joints. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel Ah, makes sense... I didn't think about that but there is only one diff yoke that I've seen. thanks! nate > The two cups for 505 are slightly larger in outside diameter, for the > differential yoke on the '63. This would make the cups for the yoke [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>-- >>replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Thanks to all ,who replied. The rear u joint is probably a 505. But went to O'Reiley's auto parts and their 429 has a larger diameter then I have. I have misplaced my calipers so I not going to guess the size. But the box looked open, so maybe its in wrong box. Will check with the real parts stores tomorrow. Autozone wouldn't look at it. Thanks Malcom > The two cups for 505 are slightly larger in outside diameter, for the > differential yoke on the '63. This would make the cups for the yoke [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> -- >> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel New Information, The rear ujoint on the Studebaker is a 505 Napa part #, It has changed, It is a 201-2140. And the front Ujoint on this particular Hawk is a 507 Napa part#, It also has changed, It is now a 210-2011. So by tomorrow I should have the right ujoints. Malcom > Thanks to all ,who replied. > The rear u joint is probably a 505. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>> -- >>> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel Yeah, my car is fixed!!! Thanks to my hubby!!! > New Information, > The rear ujoint on the Studebaker is a 505 Napa part #, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>>> -- >>>> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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