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M.I 5`Persec ution . Mo lestation durin g Tr avel

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vemfmef@gmail.com - 26 Dec 2007 09:26 GMT
MI5. Persecution: Molestation during Travel

MI5s persecution. of me varies in intensity. Since 1990 it has been steady
for. perhaps 80% of the time; there was a notable quiet period in 1993, and
another quiet period in Jan-Feb 1995, as well. as a hiatus in the first two
months of. 1999. It puzzles me that they cease and restart, seemingly
without any logic or reason. But one aspect of MI5s. activities against me
which is relatively predictable is this weeks articles topic,. which is
Molestation during Travel. Almost every time I cross the Atlantic,. go to
the Continent or even try. to enjoy a holiday in this country, you can bet
that MI5 will be. there doing their utmost to wreck it all.

This aspect. of the harassment is particularly relevant as I will be
travelling to. Europe again in a months time, with naturally the Minidisc
recorder in tow;. so it will be interesting to see if I can record the
abuse which. will almost certainly take place, either on the Tube going to
the airport, at the airport, on the flight, in. the terminal building - MI5
have previously instituted instances of abuse at each of these. locations,
so well. see how much taxpayers money they waste this time, and whether it
will prove possible to capture their. abuse on minidisc.

Read about the MI5 Persecution. on the Web

June 1992 in Polands mountain. resort of Zakopane

The persecution. started in June 1990, and for the first two years I stayed
in the UK apart from a couple of brief day trips to Calais. By. the summer
of 1992. Id had enough of being cooped up in England with abusive fellow
employees egged on by an abusive secret police service, and decided. to
spend 10 days. in southern Poland, on what was intended to be a holiday at
the mountain. resort town of Zakopane.

Unfortunately the psychopaths of the. Security Service were not willing to
allow me to enjoy a holiday in peace and quiet. The. journey to Zakopane
was. by coach from the meeting point at Londons Victoria coach station
(National Express) followed by ferry followed by another. coach across
Europe. As we left Victoria a youth. and his girlfriend started a loud
tirade of. abuse directed at "this bloke", where the "bloke" was never
named, but it was very clear that the. "bloke" was myself. The youth said
"they" had "found somebody from his school, and he was always. really
stressed at school, a real psycho". Again, the. label "they" was not
elaborated on, but it was clear that "they" = the. persecutors from
MI5. The boy also said, "he was in a bed and breakfast for only one. night
and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had been in a. B&B in
Oxford. a week previously, which had been booked from work; other things
lead me to the. conclusion that the company's offices were bugged for most
of the 2 1/2 years that I was there, so "they" would have. known a room in
the B&B had. been booked. After a few minutes of this I went back to where
they were sitting. and asked where they were travelling. The boy named a
village in France, and the girl's giggling suddenly ceased; presumably. it
permeated to her brain cell what the purpose of. the boy's abuse was.

It is. now very clear to me that MI5 were trying to have me incarcerated,
assaulted or killed on. this trip across Europe. The degree of verbal
violence inescapably leads to this conclusion. When we. arrived at our
destination,. it became clear that many people, both in our tour group and
its guide, and among the ordinary residents of the town, knew there was. a
movement under way to. "get" me. MI5 employed many people and significant
resources for an action which they knew would only. take a maximum of ten
days. A commercial operation would never. have felt able to waste such
resources on such an. unproductive and temporary action; only a
state-sponsored, taxpayer-funded entity like the Security Service. would be
able to be so. wasteful.

To give some. examples of what happened in those ten days; I was walking in
some woods outside the town, when a Polish woman, looking at. me, said the
English. "sh.t" in a strongly Polish-accented voice. For the first three
years 1990-92 MI5 had. been trying to force this word on me. Another
example; I was walking. near my "hotel" when a mother said laughing to her
child, "a wiesz ze to prawdziwy wariat" which means "you. know hes a real
madman". And the "TV reacting" happened there too; on Polish TV,. a bemused
looking journalist said to another, "to jest sprawa Anglikow", which. means
"its. the concern of the English", in other words, none of our business,
despite what the English are trying to force. down our throats.

Just before we left for. home, I went with some others from our group to a
nearby bar. There. a man shouted at me the same sexual obscenity which MI5
have constantly thrown at me. these last three years. I think MI5 try to
justify their various terms of abuse by repeating them. at me until I say
them, either while conscious or while talking. in my sleep; and then they
seize on my saying those words to "prove". that the obscenities are "my
fault", et. cetera. This rather stupid reasoning of theirs can actually be
seen as. indicative of the psychopathic condition attributed to them in a
previous article; blaming. the victim for the crime you inflict on him is
how psychopaths. think.

Nor. did the persecutors let up during the return trip. Returning on the
ferry over. the channel, a rather insalubrious-looking guy talked to his
mates about "and you know this bloke, hes really mad you know, hes. really
mad". On. the National Express return coach to London, a group of five or
six young people started shouting at me. I slumped in my. seat and tried to
avoid presenting a target, so they got ever more strident. - "whats the
matter with you, cant you hear us?". One of the other people who had been
on the trip to Poland asked them why they were shouting at. me, and they
said, "hes. been to Cambridge", to which the co-holidayer asked them, "have
you been to Cambridge?" presumably thinking they were. aggrieved fellow
students, but they answered "no". Even after I left the coach. at Elephant
and Castle abuse continued; in the tube. station, two kids started throwing
abuse at me; one of them said to the other, "and you. know he works?" to
which the. other answered "yes".

Immediate Aftermath of. November 1992

As you will know from previous articles, my manager at OCG -. ARIS/Oxford,
Mr Mitchell, induced a mental breakdown in me. in the months leading up to
Nov/92. The diagnosis was regarded by the. persecutors as a victory for
them, because few if any people give credence to. allegations of harassment
when they are made. by somebody suffering from schizophrenia. There is also
a. bias against the mentally ill, an "institutionalised bigotry" in society
comparable to. the institutionalised racism against blacks.

However,. MI5 did not let up on persecuting me following Nov/92. In
December 1992. I flew by charter jet to Alicante in Spain for two weeks
recuperation. MI5 planted one of their people on the. flight, a youth who
tried to. start some noises that "hes a nutter". One of the other
passengers replied, "oh hes a nutter is he?. oh well!" and the youth shut
up and said nothing for the rest of the flight.. I think it would be fair
to say that. the youth on the flight was embarrassed by what he had been
asked to do in making the flight "uncomfortable" for me;. he sounded
defensive rather. than aggressive.

My first trip to Canada in June. 1993

Ive already covered this in a previous. article so Ill just give a brief
summary here.. On 10 June 1993 I flew British Airways from Heathrow to
Torontos Pearson Airport. On de-planing. from the aircraft, one of a group
of four fellow passengers looked at me and said, laughing, "if he tries. to
run away well find him". It was quite obvious. that these four men were the
ones who had been. harassing me since 1990.

I did nothing to apprehend. them or bring this incident to the attention of
the airport authorities, mostly because this was my very first. visit to
Canada, and the. last thing I wanted was to get into a dispute before I had
even finished. disembarking. In retrospect, I can see this was a terrible
mistake; I should have made every. effort to detain and identify these
people.

Subsequently I have made. numerous attempts to obtain the names of these
people from British Airways. passenger lists, by talking to BA, through a
lawyer in Ontario, through a solicitor in England,. through the UK police,
and also through. private detectives in the UK. But all my efforts have
come to. nothing. BA have told me they keep passenger lists for a period of
seven years, so they will still have the list for this 1993 flight.. I did
not see. or hear anything during the rest of my visit to Ontario in 1993
which would have lead. me to believe that I was being watched or followed.

Journey across Canada in summer. 1994

As I think Ive already said in previous articles I. emigrated to Canada in
late May 1994. For six weeks between late May 1994 and early. July 1994 I
travelled across Canada from coast. to coast, starting in Toronto, visiting
various cities and ending. up in British Columbia. I saw this both as
something of a holiday, and the chance. to get to know a little better my
adopted. country.

As you can. guess, MI5 followed me everywhere I went during these six
weeks. In Toronto,. where I started this trip in late May, I was spoken
about by one youth to another with. the words "hes an idiot", to which the
other. replied, laughing sympathetically, "good luck to him".

A couple of days later I went. to Montreal and stayed at the YMCA
downtown. As you can guess (this is all. so predictable, isnt it?) MI5
followed me there and bugged my room at the YMCA. Not. only that, but they
managed to set-up an instance of. "newscaster reaction" from a local
television station;. while I was watching a Vermont TV news programme on
the set in my room,. the woman reporter said, "well theyre just tired and
they want to go home", which sounds like a. pretty unprofessional thing to
say until you realise she was trying to say of me that I was. the one that
was supposed to be tired, and they (ie MI5) wanted me to go. home to the
UK.

On the bus journey across the North American continent, it was quite. clear
that MI5 were following me. every step on the way. For the first part of
the journey. they actually put someone on the bus with me, a youth who said
at me "that. guys paranoid" and tried to incite other passengers to attack
me. I stopped for a couple of days in Winnipeg in central. Canada, and on
leaving the town. heard on the radio a female presenter ranting about
"insanity! insanity!". It is very tiring travelling such a long. distance
by bus; I took the journey in two steps, each of. about 36 hours; and it is
especially tiring when you know. MI5 are watching you and harassing you
every. step of the way.

When I finally got to Vancouver, MI5 instituted the. usual harassment, in
very short order. I was surprised how quickly they were able. to induce
hatred towards me in elements of the general. populace; the Security
Service. must have employed a number of agents and serious resources in a
very short period of time; and for no. real gain, because I havent been
back to BC for almost. five years, so all their "work" appears to be for
nothing. In downtown Vancouver. a street person said in front of me,
"theyre all talking about him". For a few days I. was staying at Pauls
Guest House. (345 W.14th Ave); on the day I left, the owner Paul shouted at
no-one in particular, "hes. going to Victoria" - which was quite accurate,
I was indeed going to the. provincial capital Victoria on Vancouver
Island. But I had not told anyone at the guest house where I was going;. I
had only. mentioned to my parents back in England on the phone that I was
going away from Vancouver for a few days. Which leads. me to suppose that
MI5s bugging of the phone in my parents. house yielded the
"intelligence" that I intended to. visit Victoria, and they had passed the
information on to. Paul.

When I got. to Victoria it was again obvious that the persecutors were
"doing their. stuff" there as well. On the street I was identified as being
English, although I had not said anything so my. accent hadnt given me
away; and returning by ferry to the mainland, I. was abused by a Canadian
woman who said, "hes a nutter! you can run. but you cant hide". During my
years in Canada I have never heard the word "nutter" on any. other
occasion; I do not think. it is part of Canadians vocabulary; so the
Canadian woman on the ferry, who was obviously talking about. me, must have
been supplied with this word by the. English persecutors. And once I got
back to Vancouver, staying at the Austin Hotel. on Granville St, I listened
to a conversation in the apartment block. directly opposite, and a man
saying,. "hes paranoid, so thats as bad as it can be, so why are they doing
this. to him?".

Holiday in the. States, August 1995

By 1995 I. was living in Canada, and in August I went down the eastern
seaboard to Florida. and as far as Key West by car. As you can guess (this
is all so boring and predictable, isnt it?) MI5. followed me every step of
the way.. I can see in retrospect that this must have been quite easy for
them as they had my. car bugged, both on the inside to listen to anything
that was said and what radio station I was listening to, as. well as what
must have been a tracker device installed to track. it across long
distances.

The first city I visited was Philadelphia. In. the old Congress Hall where
the first US Congress assembled, the. woman guide started referring to my
situation, saying that "all these. people in Europe were watching it", and
they. were "a little paranoid" at this 18th-century experiment in
democracy. Also I had recently written a newsgroup post. where Id described
a. (female) poster as "wet-nosed" (implying "canine"), and a young girl in
Philadelphia remarked, "so he thinks were dogs?" There were two or. three
more incidents during this holiday. in the eastern States, including a
radio station down near Miami, showing "they" had tracked me all the. way
there, and were bugging the inside of. my car; but I didnt record the
details and. Ive forgotten some of it now. Also down in Miami Beach a
French tourist in. a lift expressed support for me with the words, "cest
incroyable" ie. its incredible, meaning that MI5s well-known. actions
against. me were beyond belief.

To go back a bit, in about May/June. 1995 Id visited New York, again by
car, and was insulted several times by. people using the same words that
had been. used against me in England. In Central Park, and elderly
Englishman (not a real gentleman. - but then the Engish view of themselves
as "gentlemen" etc is quite laughable) looked at me and. said "idiot". And
while I was eating in a streetside. restaurant a New York youth started
laughing and said something like, "I cant believe it, hes actually here". -
I think that was because I had had. an expressed wish to visit New York for
some years before this, although after this visit I wont. be going there
again for a. very long time.

Visit. to Poland December 1995/January 1996

In. December 1995 I flew (BA again, unfortunately - every time Ive flown BA
one of these incidents has happened, presumably MI5 is. happier setting up
harassment on British-domiciled carrier) from Montreal to. Berlin and
travelled on to Poland to. visit family. MI5 naturally harassed me in
Poland during my brief stay. They followed me around. and got Polish people
to take part in the harassment. In one case two Polish youths talked. in
front of me. saying in English (with marked Polish accents), "f.cked up
men, f.ck you". There were also other incidents which I dont remember. too
clearly since it. was some time ago.

The return. flight connected through Heathrow, and in the transit lounge
MI5 again set-up harassment against me. In Poland they were. talking their
abuse in English, and in London they set Polish people after me. to speak
in Polish; they heard me on the phone to my father, and. said "a wiesz ze
to Polski wariat", in an almost. sympathetic, inclusive fashion
(translation. "you know hes a Polish nutter"). Once. on the flight to
Montreal I was again. set upon by two English youths, one of whom spoke and
the other listened. The aggressive "fat bastard" youth said,. "if he wants
to be a w.nker" (its my fault. theyre harassing me, you see),
self-justification that "hes a nutter" (so we. have to keep on abusing him,
because hes ill), as well as talking about the town. in Poland where I had
been. staying. He also said, "he doesnt know who we are", but as already
remarked in a previous article, that was at best a half-denial of my. guess
expressed in internet. newsgroups that the people after me were MI5 - if
anything its a half-confirmation rather than. a half-denial.

These incidents are still going. on. You can hear digitised audio files of
abuse on a BA flight to Berlin in 1998. on the Web at address

On this flight they were again attacking my mental. health; "paranoid, hes
paranoid" and "nutter" are discernable. The last "during. travel" contact
was at Ottawa Airport on 21 July 1998,. when "Alan Holdsworth" the
psychopath MI5 agent,. dressed as a vagrant, was pacing aggressively in the
departure area. In. three weeks I will again be travelling to Europe; we
will see what fresh acts of molestation MI5 perpetrate. during this trip.

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 01:11 GMT
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:26:54 +0000, vemfmef wrote:

> MI5. Persecution: Molestation during Travel
>
> MI5s persecution. of me varies in intensity. Since 1990 it has been steady
> for. perhaps 80% of the time; there was a notable quiet period in 1993,
> and another quiet period in Jan-Feb 1995,

How the phuque did you get past my killfilter?!?!

Oh, changed your nick. Prick

STFU and go away, Poindexter. C'Ya! knot....

"Say hello to my little killfile!"
Grumpy AuContraire - 27 Dec 2007 03:07 GMT
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:26:54 +0000, vemfmef wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> "Say hello to my little killfile!"

I certainly wish that the real MI5 would find his butt and terminate him
with extreme prejudice...

JT

(Or run him over with my ol' bulletnose)
Wickeddoll - 27 Dec 2007 03:28 GMT
"Grumpy AuContraire" ...

> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> (Or run him over with my ol' bulletnose)

This person appears to be a paranoid schizophrenic.  Even if that's not the
case, something is seriously wrong with a person who thinks spamming
automobile newsgroups will top the "persecution."

Unfortunately, he/she/it isn't getting the care they desperately need.

Natalie
Greta - 27 Dec 2007 15:03 GMT
Natalie, you are so correct. Unfortunately with this diagnosis a good number
of patients refuse to stay on their medication. The mental health field has
never been able to solve this dilemma.
Greta
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 20:31 GMT
> Natalie, you are so correct. Unfortunately with this diagnosis a good
> number of patients refuse to stay on their medication. The mental health
> field has never been able to solve this dilemma. Greta

Is cyanide OTC yet?
Wickeddoll - 27 Dec 2007 21:40 GMT
"Hachiroku ????"
Greta wrote:

>> Natalie, you are so correct. Unfortunately with this diagnosis a good
>> number of patients refuse to stay on their medication. The mental health
>> field has never been able to solve this dilemma. Greta
>
> Is cyanide OTC yet?

Not to my knowledge, but you can find suitable poisons in algae-killing
agents, etc.

Not that you should...

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 28 Dec 2007 19:15 GMT
> "Hachiroku ????"
> Greta wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Not that you should...

Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the fish preferably)

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The teacher had enough. She took Little Johnny to the principal's office. While Little Johnny waited in the outer office, the teacher explained to the principal what the situation was. The principal told the teacher he would give the boy a test and if he failed to answer any of his questions he was to go back to the first-grade and behave. The teacher agreed. Little Johnny was brought in and the conditions were explained to him and he agreed to take the test.

Principal: "What is 3 x 3?"
Little Johnny: "9"

Principal: "What is 6 x 6?"
Little Johnny: "36"

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The teacher says to the principal, "Let me ask him some questions?" The principal and Little Johnny both agree.

Teacher: "What does a cow have four of that I have only two of?
Little Johnny: "Legs"

Teacher: "What is in your pants that you have but I do not have?" (The principal wondered, why does she ask such a question!)
Little Johnny: "Pockets"

Teacher: "What does a dog do that a man steps into?"
Little Johnny: "Pants"

Teacher: What's starts with a C and ends with a T, is hairy, oval, delicious and contains thin whitish liquid?"
(The principal's eyes open really wide and before he could stop the answer...)
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Little Johnny: "Bubblegum"

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Little Johnny: "Shake hands"

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Little Johnny: "Yup"

Teacher: "You blow me, you feel good"
Little Johnny: "Nose"

Teacher: "I have a stiff shaft. My tip penetrates. I come with a quiver"
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The principal breathed a sigh of relief and told the teacher, "Put his a.s in the fifth-grade, I got the last ten questions wrong myself!"

Mr Broadhurst - 28 Dec 2007 19:18 GMT
> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the fish
> preferably)

I know a bloke called Dave.
Peter Hucker - 05 Jan 2008 17:58 GMT
>> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the fish
>> preferably)
>
> I know a bloke called Dave.

Is he a scumbag?

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Wickeddoll - 28 Dec 2007 19:32 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll wrote:

>> "Hachiroku ????"
>> Greta wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the fish
> preferably)

As far as I know, any pet store sells it.  But I think you have to provide
ID, and sign a form.  At least in the U.S.

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 05 Jan 2008 17:59 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  Wickeddoll wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> As far as I know, any pet store sells it.

I think I uuse to use it, didn't last long and very expeonsive.

> But I think you have to provide
> ID, and sign a form.  At least in the U.S.

And I thought the UK was bad.

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Researchers have recently unearthed the text of the first transcontinental telegraph message.  Reportedly, it reads
ENLARGE YOUR MALE MEMBER STOP GUARANTEED RESULTS STOP ...

Wickeddoll - 05 Jan 2008 19:15 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll  wrote:
>>>> "Hachiroku ????"
>>>> Greta wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> I think I uuse to use it, didn't last long and very expeonsive.

Hmmm - not really pricey here, as far as I know

>> But I think you have to provide
>> ID, and sign a form.  At least in the U.S.
>
> And I thought the UK was bad.

Well, cyanide is a very effective poison, so for forensics purposes, they
keep track.  Anti-freeze used to be a frequent agent for poison, because it
used to be palatable.  Now it isn't, so the targeted person would notice the
taste.  We have a lot more homicides here.

*snip*

> Researchers have recently unearthed the text of the first transcontinental
> telegraph message.  Reportedly, it reads
> ENLARGE YOUR MALE MEMBER STOP GUARANTEED RESULTS STOP ...

ROFL!

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 14 Jan 2008 19:57 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  Wickeddoll  wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Hmmm - not really pricey here, as far as I know

It is if you keep having to use it often.  Plus it's a nuisance.  I got fish cause they wouldn't need much looking after!

>>> But I think you have to provide
>>> ID, and sign a form.  At least in the U.S.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> used to be palatable.  Now it isn't, so the targeted person would notice the
> taste.  We have a lot more homicides here.

I got a bit in my mouth by mistake when filling the car once.  I didn't notice any flavour at all.

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Experts say keeping teens indoors at night is the only way to make the streets safe for adults.

Wickeddoll - 14 Jan 2008 21:18 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll :
>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????"
>>>>>> Greta wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> I got a bit in my mouth by mistake when filling the car once.  I didn't
> notice any flavour at all.

Then I guess it's still available in the tasteless/odorless form in Britain?

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 22 Jan 2008 18:48 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  Wickeddoll :
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Then I guess it's still available in the tasteless/odorless form in Britain?

We're not quite as litigous as you lot (yet).

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Wickeddoll® - 22 Jan 2008 22:22 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll <:

>>>>>> As far as I know, any pet store sells it.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> We're not quite as litigous as you lot (yet).

It's more about being homicidal than litigious.  Brits are less likely to
bump people off....

:-)

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 25 Jan 2008 19:20 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  Wickeddoll <:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> It's more about being homicidal than litigious.  Brits are less likely to
> bump people off....

You've obviously never been to Bristol.

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Wickeddoll® - 25 Jan 2008 19:26 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll® >>
>>>>>> Hmmm - not really pricey here, as far as I know
>>>>>
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>
> You've obviously never been to Bristol.

I want to visit England so badly, I'd even go there.

:-)

Natalie
n5hsr@comcast.net - 26 Jan 2008 01:38 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
> Wickeddoll® >>
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>
> Natalie

Next weekend I'm going to Bristol.  (*Wisconsin*, just behind the cheddar
curtain)  I get to wear my kilt again.  (If you call it a skirt, I'll KILT
you. . . .)  I think with the weather, I may wear my great kilt.  It's been
doing double duty as the blanket on my bed for 3 years now.  (No I didn't
see his brother Howdy.)

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Wickeddoll® - 26 Jan 2008 01:45 GMT
<n5hsr@comcast.net> ...
> "Wickeddoll®" ...
>>
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> Next weekend I'm going to Bristol.  (*Wisconsin*, just behind the cheddar
> curtain)

*fwap*

>I get to wear my kilt again.  (If you call it a skirt, I'll KILT you. . .
>.)  I think with the weather, I may wear my great kilt.  It's been doing
>double duty as the blanket on my bed for 3 years now.  (No I didn't see his
>brother Howdy.)

Please, for the love of all that's holy, do *not* lift your kilt.

Natalie
Jeff Strickland - 26 Jan 2008 02:00 GMT
>> Natalie
>
> Next weekend I'm going to Bristol.  (*Wisconsin*, just behind the cheddar
> curtain)  I get to wear my kilt again.

Have you cleared that with your parole officer? (Not the trip, the outfit
... )
n5hsr@comcast.net - 26 Jan 2008 11:59 GMT
>>> Natalie
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Have you cleared that with your parole officer? (Not the trip, the outfit
> ... )

The only 'crime' I've ever commited is speeding on the Chicago expressways,
and on good days, if you're not going about 80, you're going to get
rear-ended anyway.

I hate that Joe Stalin in drag who's running for the POTUS, but every
freedom-loving American should beware those who would take freedom to
promise a little safety.
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Peter Hucker - 27 Jan 2008 18:00 GMT
>>>> Natalie
>>>
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> freedom-loving American should beware those who would take freedom to
> promise a little safety.

80 isn't speeding.  Over here the limit is 70, you won't get done for 79.

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crashed through a guardrail, rolled down a 90-foot embankment, turned over, and burst into flames.
There were no injuries.

n5hsr@comcast.net - 27 Jan 2008 18:59 GMT
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
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>
> 80 isn't speeding.  Over here the limit is 70, you won't get done for 79.

Well, most Chicago expressways are posted 55 for some stupid reason, so they
do pull people over on occasion.  But on clear days, a lot of parts will hit
80 and better.

Besides I forgot to answer the feller's other question about my costume
being approved.    I forgot to tell him 9 weekends a year I wear the same
costume up to the Bristol Renaissance Faire.  And one of the arrangers of
the party just called and I have a different costume for this particular
party, but right now it's a secret.

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Peter Hucker - 28 Jan 2008 18:42 GMT
>>>>> Next weekend I'm going to Bristol.  (*Wisconsin*, just behind the
>>>>> cheddar
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> do pull people over on occasion.  But on clear days, a lot of parts will hit
> 80 and better.

You get 40/50/60 "expressways" here if there are lots of junctions or nearby houses.  But they are usually 70.

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A very religious man lived right next door to an atheist. While the religious one prayed day in, day out, and was constantly on his knees in communion with his Lord, the atheist never even looked twice at a church.
However, the atheist's life was good, he had a well-paying job and a beautiful wife, and his children were healthy and good-natured, whereas the pious man's job was strenuous and his wages were low, his wife was getting fatter every day and his kids wouldn't give him the time of the day.
So one day, deep in prayer as usual, he raised his eyes towards heaven and asked: "Oh god, I honor you every day, I ask your advice for every problem and confess to you my every sin. Yet my neighbour, who doesn't even believe in you and certainly never prays, seems blessed with every happiness, while I go poor and suffer many an indignity. Why is this?"
And a great voice was heard from above: "BECAUSE HE DOESN'T BOTHER ME ALL THE TIME!"

Baldoni - 15 Jan 2008 01:37 GMT
It happens that Peter Hucker formulated :

>> "Peter Hucker"
>>  Wickeddoll  wrote:
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> I got a bit in my mouth by mistake when filling the car once.  I didn't
> notice any flavour at all.

Ever seen a mechanic dip his finger in a car battery and taste it to
see if the battery is alright ?

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Wickeddoll - 15 Jan 2008 01:43 GMT
"Baldoni" ...
> It happens that Peter Hucker formulated :
Wickeddoll
>>> "Peter Hucker"
>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????"
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> Ever seen a mechanic dip his finger in a car battery and taste it to see
> if the battery is alright ?

No.

And...

Gross!

:-P

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 22 Jan 2008 18:49 GMT
> It happens that Peter Hucker formulated :
>>
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> Ever seen a mechanic dip his finger in a car battery and taste it to
> see if the battery is alright ?

No.  But I was told that it burns your skin off.  Didn't burn mine off.  However don't wipe your fingers on your shirt.  It survives fine until you next wash it, then falls to bits.

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It's not only the Americans that are stupid:
3 Brits die each year testing if a 9v battery works on their tongue.
British Hospitals reported 4 broken arms last year after cracker pulling accidents.
8 Brits were injured last year in accidents involving out of control Scalextric cars.

VWWall - 22 Jan 2008 19:02 GMT
>> Ever seen a mechanic dip his finger in a car battery and taste it to
>> see if the battery is alright ?
>
> No.  But I was told that it burns your skin off.  Didn't burn mine off.  However don't wipe your fingers on your shirt.  It survives fine until you next wash it, then falls to bits.

Battery acid is dilute sulfuric acid.  On your shirt, the water
evaporates, leaving concentrated sulfuric acid, which destroys the
shirt's fibers.

VWW
suburboturbo - 26 Jan 2008 12:40 GMT
On Jan 5, 2:15 pm, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Peter Hucker"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Soooooo, how's this help the woman who needs to know when to change
her timing belt or the guy who's car keeps drifting to the right and
the dealer won't admit that he's got a problem.

Let's stay on topic people.
Scott in Florida - 26 Jan 2008 15:17 GMT
>On Jan 5, 2:15 pm, "Wickeddoll"
><wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
>Let's stay on topic people.

Don't let the door hit ya in the arse on the way out.....

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suburboturbo - 27 Jan 2008 02:36 GMT
On Jan 5, 2:15 pm, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Peter Hucker"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

EEEEEEEEEEEnuff already.  If the MI5 isn't a new Subaru prototype, and
the car can't run on algae, talk about it somewhere else, like your
therapy group or the street coner near my office where the crazy
preacher babbles in some combination of spanglish, hebrew and hand
motions to conduct an invisible orchestra.
John of Aix - 28 Dec 2007 22:24 GMT
> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the
> fish preferably)

Water snails are pretty efficient.
Peter Hucker - 29 Dec 2007 19:42 GMT
>> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the
>> fish preferably)
>
> Water snails are pretty efficient.

I've got some.  Not sure if they're working.  Probably need a lot more, the large ones are quite expensive though.  The small ones have disappeared, probably eaten by the monster-sized goldfish.

The water smells of ammonia if I don't clean the whole tank out every week, something is in there that should not be.  I'm experimenting with giving them less food - perhaps it's going off.  It never ceases to amaze me how little fuel a fish requires to swim 24 hours a day - if we could harness this technology in power plants, we could make a fortune.

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Wickeddoll - 29 Dec 2007 20:27 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
John of Aix :

>>> Got anything to kill the algae in my fish tank? (without killing the
>>> fish preferably)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> me how little fuel a fish requires to swim 24 hours a day - if we could
> harness this technology in power plants, we could make a fortune.

Hubby used to keep a lot of fish.  One thing he figured out was that if you
change the water too often, it isn't as good for the algae-eating fish, and
it's not necessary to do it just because the water looks murky.  My mom's
algae-eater grew to about 2 feet long!

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 29 Dec 2007 20:55 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  John of Aix :
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> it's not necessary to do it just because the water looks murky.  My mom's
> algae-eater grew to about 2 feet long!

If I don't change the water regularly, the tank stinks, goes very cloudy, and the algae eaters die.

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The "new labour" government has just announced that they are changing their party emblem from a red rose to a condom, as they believe it most accurately represents the governments political stance.
A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks and gives you a false sense of security when you're actually being screwed.

Wickeddoll - 29 Dec 2007 20:57 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll
>>  John of Aix :
>>>>
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> If I don't change the water regularly, the tank stinks, goes very cloudy,
> and the algae eaters die.

Freshwater or saltwater fish?

Hubby only had freshwater, since they were cheaper, but when he retires in
about 4 years, he'll get some saltwater ones.

Natalie
sharx35 - 30 Dec 2007 00:26 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
> Wickeddoll
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Natalie

So, are you looking forward to dealing with him 24/7? ROFL. He'll be doing
more grocery shopping, eh?
Wickeddoll - 30 Dec 2007 00:37 GMT
"sharx35"...

> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>
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> So, are you looking forward to dealing with him 24/7? ROFL. He'll be doing
> more grocery shopping, eh?

He already does the grocery shopping.  He doesn't like that I shop in bulk,
which produces a higher bottom line.  He refuses to acknowledge that you
save in the long run!

I think he'll be a good retiree, when he's in his sixties, but the
retirement I'm speaking of, is from the Air Force.  He'll be only 52, so
he'll still work, I'm sure.

Natalie
sharx35 - 30 Dec 2007 00:46 GMT
> "sharx35"...
>>
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>
> Natalie

Well, I retired from full-time work at 42. Hard to believe that almost 20
years have passed since I punched my last time card!  We go grocery shopping
together when the store has a $30 discount on a $250 purchase. Wife tries to
organize it so that we don't go a penny over the $250--I'm more
philosophical--$30 over would be no big deal if we need the stuff or if the
price is good on a bulk item.
Peter Hucker - 05 Jan 2008 19:48 GMT
> "Peter Hucker"
>  Wickeddoll
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> Hubby only had freshwater, since they were cheaper, but when he retires in
> about 4 years, he'll get some saltwater ones.

Freshwater.  Saltwater adds the chore of looking after the salinity etc etc.

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Wickeddoll - 05 Jan 2008 21:17 GMT
"Peter Hucker"
Wickeddoll  wrote:
>>>>  John of Aix :
>>>>>>
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> Freshwater.  Saltwater adds the chore of looking after the salinity etc
> etc.

Like I said, cheaper.

Hubby plans to get a huge tank with at least 5 different saltwater species.

Natalie
Wickeddoll - 27 Dec 2007 21:43 GMT
Sorry for cross-posting, but I wasn't sure if Greta would see my reply

"Greta"
> Natalie, you are so correct. Unfortunately with this diagnosis a good
> number of patients refuse to stay on their medication. The mental health
> field has never been able to solve this dilemma.
> Greta

*sigh* I know, but I needed to vent.

Love your "email name" - a fellow Trekkie!

Natalie
Peter Hucker - 27 Dec 2007 19:19 GMT
> "Grumpy AuContraire" ...
>>
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>
> Unfortunately, he/she/it isn't getting the care they desperately need.

The only care he needs is a prison cell.

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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.

Karl Haas - 30 Dec 2007 06:21 GMT
> > "Grumpy AuContraire" ...
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

These questions are open to all:
How many choices do you have of firms to supply electrical power for
you?
Where are you located?
Are you on economy seven (7 hoyurs at half-rate)?
What is you rate per KW-HR, (if you know off-hand)
Answers from all parts of the world desired
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 20:29 GMT
>> How the phuque did you get past my killfilter?!?!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> (Or run him over with my ol' bulletnose)

I think they ought to impound his computer and check him out for treason.

They still hang people there, don't they? Or Firing Squad?  ;)
 
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