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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / January 2008

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OHV breathing.

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Wizard of Oz - 22 Jan 2008 00:56 GMT
I was looking at a few photos in the workshop manual and one in particular
shows that the OHV six after 1961 was supposed to have a crankcase breather
coming from what looks to be the old oil filler which was blocked off for
the change of blocks.

Does any one have any more information as to the photo and why the
production engines do not have this?

Wiz.
Transtar60 - 22 Jan 2008 01:22 GMT
The picture used  in the shop manual was probably of an engineering test
engine.

> I was looking at a few photos in the workshop manual and one in particular
> shows that the OHV six after 1961 was supposed to have a crankcase breather
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> Wiz.

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Wizard of Oz - 22 Jan 2008 03:42 GMT
That's what I thought but was interested to find any other information about
it.

I am in the process of installing an OHV six in my 59 lark and have been
working on a PCV system that will work better, if possible, and
incorporating any type of pressure relief for the crankcase. If the original
design was not used because of production cost but can be fitted now I will
do it. On the other hand the case might have been that the existing side
exit through the lifter cover was considered adequate. For higher
performance, such as with a turbo installed, a better system could be the
engineers preproduction design.

Any thoughts?

Wiz.

> The picture used  in the shop manual was probably of an engineering test
> engine.
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>> Wiz.
Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Jan 2008 05:06 GMT
It's always been my contention that Studebaker engines, (including both,
six cylinder and V8), after the road tube era suffered from inadequate
ventilation with the exception of the series.

Most of other makes that used PCV devices also had alternative
ventilation features most which seemed to be to oil filler caps.

I modified my old T-Cab (that had the later Lark oil filler caps on the
valve covers) by runing a hose to the old filler pipe from the air
cleaner. The truck ran better and had a lot less oil leakage as a result.

JT

> That's what I thought but was interested to find any other information about
> it.
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keith_kichefski@wed.dresser.com - 22 Jan 2008 19:27 GMT
Here is how I remember the crankcase breather on OHV sixes:

1961 Road draft tube, off of the side tappet cover, much like the flat
head.
1962 Road draft tube - goose neck shape, off a 'new' hole in the
block, ahead of the distributor, below the generator.
1963 & 64 PCV had a tube fitting off of the rear tappet cover, a
rubber hose and a PCV valve screwed into an elbow at the intake
manifold, just above the heat riser area.

All had a vented breather cap, on the valve cover.

California cars, which were adapted later, had their own unique setups.
Wizard of Oz - 24 Jan 2008 00:41 GMT
I have been playing with all three setups on the Flathead and used the later
style which I plumbed into a fabricated carb spacer. I did this as the PCV
system can not, with any degree of ease, be installed into the original
manifold close to the carb. The hose from the oil filler comes from the air
filter but this might not matter but I did not want to create any type of
seal. The mesh in the Flathead filler cap is to trap dirt from entering the
crankcase so it must, at times, be under vacuum. On an OHV engine running
the oil filler/breather cap to the air filter allows the vacuum from the PCV
system to draw air from the top of the engine down to the crankcase and up
into the carb with no chance of any extra pressure blowing out through the
caps and into the atmosphere. With the positive flow from the top to the
bottom of the engine this also helps oil drain back.

Wiz.

> Here is how I remember the crankcase breather on OHV sixes:
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> California cars, which were adapted later, had their own unique setups.
 
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