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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / July 2008

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paul@resi-tech.com - 03 Jul 2008 13:21 GMT
Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?  Or did people just lose interest?
Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
Just curious
Lee Aanderud - 03 Jul 2008 14:00 GMT
> Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
> Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
> Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?

Some did, many did not.  Several of the regulars here fell off the face of
the earth.

> Or did people just lose interest?

Possibly, especially the guys who don't live, eat, and dream Studebakers
24/7/365.

> Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?

Not as many as this place it it's prime.  There is a core group over there
that consists of about a dozen guys who do 90% of the posting.  Don't
question the norm if you don't want to get jumped, it's definately a mob
mentality over there.  I did and was pretty much asked to leave... so I did
and as far as I'm concerned most of the guys there can kiss my a.s.  Funny
thing is I check it about once a day (slowly weening myself from it) and I
see now they're talking about the exact same changes and problems that I
brought up (for example, forum improvements, website outages, and membership
recruiting).  Oh well, I'll just sit back and watch the SDC fade into the
sunset since they don't appear to be interested in what I have to say.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Studebaker George - 03 Jul 2008 23:29 GMT
I have been too busy to do anything but quickly skim over both this
forum and the SDC one.  I will agree, though, that the SDC forum is
kind of "controlled" by a certain bunch and if you do "step out of
(their) line" THEY can get some jabs in but forget jabbing back as
Shaw doesn't like a poster without a gazilliion posts to say anything
bad about or even question a "regular".  I have been on this forum for
a long time (not as long as some, though!) and I prefer a place where
if someone takes a shot at you you can shoot back...  I have enjoyed
this forum even through all the flame wars, spam, etc.  Those wars
prove we are all human and not robots.
Studebaker George
(Fixing Studebakers every day instead of talking about them)
Karl Haas - 05 Jul 2008 23:44 GMT
> I have been too busy to do anything but quickly skim over both this
> forum and the SDC one.  I will agree, though, that the SDC forum is
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> Studebaker George
> (Fixing Studebakers every day instead of talking about them)

I like this group as I can easily jump directly to other Google Groups
where I posts messages. In each of them, I have a different name, so I
can easily know should someone write me directly.
Others, like Nate, use their name openly.  (We oten run nto each other)
johnnywiffer@aol.com - 11 Jul 2008 17:34 GMT
Sorry guys, I have not posted here in a long time, tho I read it
regularly.  I think the major reason for the "defection" (if there is
one) to the Forum is the pix.  Can't post 'em here.  AND if spam or
porn gets on the Forum, it's gone almost immediately.  Are those good
reasons to post there and not here?  Pro'ly not.  But they are good
enough for some.  So we do.

And I think there are more lurkers here than 8-9.  Just as there are
many on the Forum.  We just don't write much, altho I guess I write as
much as some others.  I try not to take ANY of this very seriously.
So I find humor in what others post, tho that doesn't make me a star.
Here's a really good example:  http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20440
One person just didn't understand my "humor".  Oh well.....

All in all, I think both "forums" are necessary and fun.  Hey, we are
all STUDE guys!...er...PEOPLE!  ;-)

John
1957HK7@gmail.com - 13 Jul 2008 16:22 GMT
Yes I totally agree with you.  To me, sometimes the SDC forum gets
into a "in-group" mentality similar to which is found in a high-
school.

True, this group has it's shortcomings, but it has a family feeling.
Sure that family might fight, but it's still a family. The SDC forum
has become not a family but a pecking-order. One can only verbalize
ideas or thoughts based on ones social rank depending on how many
posts one makes.

I recall back in 2003-2004 how great this forum was. Hopefully there
are enough of us guys who can keep it alive.

 I will agree, though, that the SDC forum is
> kind of "controlled" by a certain bunch and if you do "step out of
> (their) line" THEY can get some jabs in but forget jabbing back as
> Shaw doesn't like a poster without a gazilliion posts to say anything
> bad about or even question a "regular".
me@notanywhere.net - 13 Jul 2008 19:34 GMT
>True, this group has it's shortcomings, but it has a family feeling.
>Sure that family might fight, but it's still a family. The SDC forum
>has become not a family but a pecking-order. One can only verbalize
>ideas or thoughts based on ones social rank depending on how many
>posts one makes.

have to agree... its the pits to be flat out TOLD that you are wrong
about something, when  you got books and  physical evidence in front
of you, but, the person ranting on you 'knows it all', and that aint
the way it is..
20 years plus working on the topic counts for nothing with certain of
them.

On a related note, gave up trying to have my old email address on 1
web page changed to what I have now had for the last almost 3 years...
so-to all of you that sent emails to that addy, needing locks worked
on, and I IGNORED YOU, its NOT MY FAULT..

--Shiva--
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Jerry Kaiser - 14 Jul 2008 16:50 GMT
I sure agree with what you are saying about the SDC forum. I have read it
some and posted very little. Now that I have usenet back I probably won't
even read it anymore. I signed up with News.motzarella.org for free access
to the NG.This is my first post useing it lets see if it works

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53 Coupe
53 2R6 pick up
37 Pesident Sedan
38 Coupe Express
54 Conestoga

>
>>True, this group has it's shortcomings, but it has a family feeling.
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> --Shiva--
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
The Other Dave - 15 Jul 2008 21:49 GMT
It works Jerry. Nice to see you back. By the way, I ran into a guy from
Tucson at the Northwest SDC Zone Meet last weekend here in the Portland
area. Claimed to know you, but I forgot his name already.
Dave Mc

>I sure agree with what you are saying about the SDC forum. I have read it
>some and posted very little. Now that I have usenet back I probably won't
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>> --Shiva--
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Jerry Kaiser - 16 Jul 2008 05:27 GMT
Hi Dave
You must have CRS also. If the guy from Tucson
name comes back to you let me know'.How have you been ? What do you have for
a Stude now that the yellow drop top is gone?

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Jerry Kaiser (studeblu)
53 Coupe
53 2R6 pick up
37 President Sedan
38 Coupe Express
54 Conestoga

> It works Jerry. Nice to see you back. By the way, I ran into a guy from
> Tucson at the Northwest SDC Zone Meet last weekend here in the Portland
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>>> --Shiva--
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
me@notanywhere.net - 03 Jul 2008 14:46 GMT
>Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
>Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
>Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?  Or did people just lose interest?
>Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
>Just curious

I am on 32 Yahoo groups, and over the last 6 months, find the same
thing is for all practical happening across the board..
Interest in (insert whatever here) has in some cases TOTALLY died
away..
this is NOT limited to Studebakers, or cars, but EVERYTHING.

I am on a wood working group where it was 50 posts a day.. its now
down to perhaps 2 or 3 a week.. Airbrushing went from 100 a day, to
10.
1 game site went from 10 downloadable additions a day, to this week 3
days with none..
--Shiva--
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
John Poulos - 03 Jul 2008 15:05 GMT
> Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
> Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
> Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?  Or did people just lose interest?
> Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
> Just curious
The SDC forums are about as busy as this news group was with Studebaker
talk. The off topic stuff in the general chat (Stove Huggers forum)is
not as busy yet.

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Grumpy AuContraire - 03 Jul 2008 15:26 GMT
Yep, they all ran over there.  Guess the heat was too much for 'em here.

How sad that people have so much difficulty using the "mark as read"
function.

The SDC forum(s) are far more a PIA to navigate etc.

Besides, sometimes silence is golden...

JT

> Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
> Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
> Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?  Or did people just lose interest?
> Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
> Just curious
John Poulos - 03 Jul 2008 15:54 GMT
It took me a while to admit it, but I am much happier on the SDC forum
because it is "gently moderatered" by Bob Shaw. After being called every
name in the book here, the unending flame wars we all joined in on, it
got out of control.
  We still disagree, fuss and fight, but if it gets out of hand Bob
steps in (maybe every few months) I get more useful info over there
without the trash talk.

> Yep, they all ran over there.  Guess the heat was too much for 'em here.
>
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>> Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
>> Just curious

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zoombot - 03 Jul 2008 17:34 GMT
p...@resi-tech.com wrote:

> >> Check the stats on messages.   June posts were only 200+
> >> Thats down from a high of June 2004 of over 4000 posts.
> >> Did everyboby go to the SDC forum?  Or did people just lose interest?
> >> Does the SDC forum have thousands of post per month?
> >> Just curious

Paul, I thought I had seen your posts on the SDC forum before?
Despite some "outages" every now & then, the quality of discussion
there remains high.

Between M.1.5.'s multi-postings of nonsense, unconttrolled spammers,
and Lee trollishness, this newsgroup just lost all appeal.
 
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