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Saginaw power steering

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RBK. - 04 Aug 2008 02:54 GMT
Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
sedan or wagon.
If any one has the shift lever from the bottom of the column on the
Saginaw power steering setup  , the one without the grease fitting ,I
would be willing to trade rare stuff for.
I have many power steering parts for sale and will buy any extra
Saginaw power steering parts or incomplete set ups.
I am still buying more inventories and just bought out a former Stude
truck dealer inventory.lots of truck stuff. 1950-56 Studebaker
Automatic parts etc.
Not much chrome or accesories but try!
22.000 parts inventoried on the computer.38.000 Sq. ft of floor space
full of Studebaker parts.

Bob Kapteyn
studebaker@mac.com
Jerry Kaiser - 04 Aug 2008 16:38 GMT
Bob
Are you going to have a parts list for your truck parts?
If you do you should post it on the Truck talk forum.
Any parts for a 38 coupe express? When I get started on mine Ill need
plenty.

Signature

Jerry Kaiser (studeblu)
53 Coupe
53 2R6 pick up
37 President Sedan
38 Coupe Express
54 Conestoga

> Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
> I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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> Bob Kapteyn
> studebaker@mac.com

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RBK. - 04 Aug 2008 18:09 GMT
> Bob
> Are you going to have a parts list for your truck parts?

These truck parts are being inventoried into my regular inventory of
22.000 part numbers.
I have a website with 1937-40 parts and I may add pictures of the
parts there.
I am looking for an ignition lock assembly (Delco) for a Canadian
built 1936 Dictator.
I have quite a few parts for Coupe Expreses but I need part numbers.
Look at my website and you may recognise the items you need.
Check back once in awhile to check for new items.
Richard Quinn made up a listing for parts that are different from the
sedans for the coupe express.
The other part numbers can be found in the regular parts books that
are readily available.
If you need this listing contact him at Rtq11@aol.com.
He has an amazing collection of Studebaker literature.

Bob
RBK. - 04 Aug 2008 18:16 GMT
> On Aug 4, 10:38 am, "Jerry Kaiser" <stude...@triconet.org> wrote:> Bob
> > Are you going to have a parts list for your truck parts?
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>
> Bob

OOPs
Here is the link to my website
http://photos.stude.us/stude37/
me@notanywhere.net - 04 Aug 2008 20:34 GMT
>> I am looking for an ignition lock assembly (Delco) for a Canadian
>> built 1936 Dictator.

whats the key?
I got a spot that you cant post on, that someone there might have
one..
you need the lock cylinder only?
or the complete switch, if its a part as well?

--Shiva--
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Jerry Kaiser - 05 Aug 2008 03:11 GMT
Thanks Bob

It will be awhile before I start on the Coupe Express. I haven't completely
finished the 37 President yet and next in line is the 54 Conestoga. Then the
38 CE

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Jerry Kaiser (studeblu)
53 Coupe
53 2R6 pick up
37 President Sedan
38 Coupe Express
54 Conestoga

On Aug 4, 10:38 am, "Jerry Kaiser" <stude...@triconet.org> wrote:
> Bob
> Are you going to have a parts list for your truck parts?

These truck parts are being inventoried into my regular inventory of
22.000 part numbers.
I have a website with 1937-40 parts and I may add pictures of the
parts there.
I am looking for an ignition lock assembly (Delco) for a Canadian
built 1936 Dictator.
I have quite a few parts for Coupe Expreses but I need part numbers.
Look at my website and you may recognise the items you need.
Check back once in awhile to check for new items.
Richard Quinn made up a listing for parts that are different from the
sedans for the coupe express.
The other part numbers can be found in the regular parts books that
are readily available.
If you need this listing contact him at Rtq11@aol.com.
He has an amazing collection of Studebaker literature.

Bob

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
N8N - 06 Aug 2008 15:22 GMT
> Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
> I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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> Bob Kapteyn
> studeba...@mac.com

Bob,

I have an extra setup from a '55 C-K, the box leaks though.  Pump is
good, I swapped pumps because I detailed the one that I bought while
the original was doing its thing on the car.  I do not know how much
interchanges with a sedan though; I suspect that other than the box
and pump not much.  I was hoping to send it off to have it rebuilt to
swap into my '55 if I can't come up with a Saginaw manual box, but I
haven't been able to justify the $$$ yet.  Let me know if you're
interested; the sucker is HEAVY though, I imagine shipping would be
quite expensive.

nate
Grumpy AuContraire - 06 Aug 2008 17:06 GMT
>>Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
>>I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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>
> nate

I believe that the coupe will have a longer steering column as the body
is set back about 4" as compared to a sedan.  I also have an "extra"
Saginaw power steering box and pump mount but little else.

BTW, a manual box for Champions should be a Saginaw for '53-55.  Same
for 1956 maybe except that the steering wheel spline may be different.
The spline definitely changed in 1957.

JT
N8N - 06 Aug 2008 18:46 GMT
On Aug 6, 12:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:

> >>Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
> >>I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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>
> JT

yes, you are correct, I just need to find a good one.  Actually I have
everything I need to make it work except for the steering shaft/worm
gear.  I bought a complete box and column including the pitman arm,
reach rod, and bellcrank at a swap meet a while back but when I
knocked the steering wheel off the top of the steering shaft was
messed up and I don't like welding on steering shafts.  I think 53-56
will all work.

nate
Grumpy AuContraire - 06 Aug 2008 23:06 GMT
> On Aug 6, 12:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
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> nate

Whatever you do, don't use the Ross manual box.  They are crap.  The
original still resides in the Power Hawk but it has had that "flat" spot
on the worm almost ever since I bought the car in 1966 with only 33K on
the clock. It now is in the low 90K range and all it needs is some
ambition on my part to install the Saginaw box (assuming that it's the
right one) that I got from Heiple years ago.

JT
N8N - 07 Aug 2008 14:00 GMT
On Aug 6, 6:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 12:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> > wrote:
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>
> JT

10-4...  actually I just got a call from Bob Peterson yesterday,
apparently he got around to parting out an early 6-cyl K-body and it
does in fact have a Saginaw box in it, so in a couple months when I
actually have it in my posession and have a chance to check it out I
might feel more motivated to sell off my Saginaw P/S stuff.  I know,
JDP doesn't agree with what I'm doing, but I want to try it...  I like
the concept of lighter weight on the front end and less stuff to get
in the way/break; I figure with the slow ratio and 17" wheel it
shouldn't be *too* hard to drive without power steering.  I didn't
miss it on my '62 Daytona.

On the flip side, the Saginaw P/S setup that I have in the car now is
working flawlessly and only needs a new Pitman shaft seal to be
perfect...

nate
Grumpy AuContraire - 07 Aug 2008 18:12 GMT
> On Aug 6, 6:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
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> nate

I wouldn't get rid of the Saginaw power unit. With it a smaller diameter
wheel is permissible.  The c/k's have a serious clearance problem,
(wheel clearance to your lap) since the shaft is more horizontal than
sedans due to the set back of the c/k cabin.

Jeff Rice might still have some info how to seal the ram shaft on the
Saginaw or you could just go to using c/v joint grease that works great.

JT
N8N - 08 Aug 2008 21:12 GMT
On Aug 7, 1:12 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 6:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> > wrote:
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>
> JT

I agree on all counts, but I actually have a stock 17" wheel on it
right now and while it's a little cramped I don't have a problem with
it.  I can always swap back if it doesn't work out.  I figure I'm
putting this car together for me; if I can drive it comfortably that's
all that really matters.  down the road if I sell it to someone and
they don't like it, I can always throw the P/S stuff in the trunk (I
do have two complete setups, so it's no skin off my nose etc.  The
"extra" was just so I could have one rebuilt if I never found a manual
box.  I have been looking, not seriously, but keeping an eye out for
one ever since I got this car, and I have only seen the two that I've
purchased.)

nate
Grumpy AuContraire - 09 Aug 2008 00:22 GMT
> On Aug 7, 1:12 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
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>
> nate

Just remember, as you grow older, you'll come to appreciate power
steering and even an automatic tranny.

I don't have either on the PH but this car is to remain largely
original. But there are times, I wish I had PS especially when I was
running radials..

JT
RBK. - 15 Aug 2008 14:42 GMT
> > Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
> > I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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>
> nate

Nate

I am interested in any Saginaw power steering items you have.
Are you in Fort Wayne?
Did we discuss a power steering setup from a manual shift car at one
time?
When I go that way I may want to stop by and see what you have.
The reason these Saginaw boxes leak is that the bushings wear and the
shaft moves around
and ruins the seal.So make sure you check the movement of the shaft
before you replace the seal.

Robert Kapteyn 815 722 7262.
N8N - 15 Aug 2008 15:27 GMT
> > > Anyone has any Saginaw power steering setups for sale?
> > > I am looking for a manual shift ,power steering setup for a 1953-1955
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Bob,

I'm in Falls Church, VA - I think you were looking for some shift rods
to copy and unfortunately I wasn't able to come through with them due
to a miscommunication between myself and the guy that I bought some
parts from (I got everything I wanted from him *except* the shift
rods, which I do not have.  In fact if anyone *has* repro'd the T-85
shift rods for a C-K I'd be interested in buying a pair.  I have
everything I should need to put a T-85 in my car *except* for the
trans itself, and the shift rods.)

I am certain that I have a working pump, box (possibly in need of
rebuild) and frame bracket from a '55 C-K.  Not sure what else I have
floating around.  I do have the stickshift column but I don't want to
sell that.

thanks

nate
 
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