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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2008

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Coming or Going, Studebaker Sold Style to a Postwar Generation (New York Times)

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admin@ng2000.com - 13 Sep 2008 07:09 GMT
http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=studebaker

Sixty years ago, Studebaker was the first automaker to come out with new postwar styling that made the Big Three?s prewar designs look like dinosaurs.
Grumpy AuContraire - 14 Sep 2008 03:09 GMT
> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=studebaker
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> Sixty years ago, Studebaker was the first automaker to come out with new postwar styling that made the Big Three?s prewar designs look like dinosaurs.

While the article was reasonably correct, there is an error regarding
the "copying" of Thunderbird rear windows for the GT Hawks. That style
of windo first appeared in a mid 1950's Packard prototype designed by
Brooks Stevens.  So, Ford actually "borrowed" earlier Brooks design.

JT
johnnywiffer@aol.com - 15 Sep 2008 22:18 GMT
On Sep 13, 9:09�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
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EXCEPT that I read somewhere (I think in SIA) in an article written by
the guy who did it, that they just ran a new Thunderbird into the
shop, took the measurments and put virtually the same roof on the GT
Hawk.  And he was there.  They put out the STORY that they took the
idea from the Packard Predictor but actually......

Can look it up if necessary.  :(

John
Grumpy AuContraire - 16 Sep 2008 01:20 GMT
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> Can look it up if necessary.  :(

All well and good but Stevens still originated the style first...

JT
johnnywiffer@aol.com - 16 Sep 2008 16:32 GMT
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I always hate to disagree with a pro, but if you look at the rear
window of the Predictor and that of the late Hawk, you notice that the
Hawk's "earmuffs" have parallel lines while the Predictor's are more
shaped like a "V".  These are actually 2 different designs.  And of
course, in later years, the designer SAID they had copied the T-
bird.

By the way, the Predictor is in the Studebaker Museum in South Bend.
They even have a small leaflet on the car that may be free, not
sure.

John
doug holverson - 16 Sep 2008 00:48 GMT
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Is a picture of the Packard prototype posting in the Web?

DGH
Grumpy AuContraire - 16 Sep 2008 01:21 GMT
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There probably is but I remember seeing it in Southbend back in the
early 1970's...

JT
Paul  Johnson - 16 Sep 2008 14:23 GMT
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> Is a picture of the Packard prototype posting in the Web?

See http://www.loti.com/56packard.html.
Paul Johnson
Grumpy AuContraire - 16 Sep 2008 17:09 GMT
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That is not the car I recall seeing in the museum.  I guess a little
more research is needed.

That would have been quite the car though if it had been put into
production!

What were the names of the smaller sports cars proposed by Packard?

JT
 
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