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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / January 2009Is the SDC Forum Down?
I've been having trouble logging on to the SDC Forum. Has it been taken down by Bob Shaw for updates, or is there some other trouble? Thanks!!! > I've been having trouble logging on to the SDC Forum. > Has it been taken down by Bob Shaw for updates, or is there some other > trouble? > Thanks!!! Ya I've been having trouble this morning,wonder the same thing? SDC forum is cooling off after a war the likes of the old days HERE.. Only difference is that the moderator slapped everyone (save for a couple) and tossed all the posts. I like a good flame war every once in a while.....<G>... it has a tendancy to knock people off pedestals for a while. Eventually they climb back up, but it is still a kind of "leveling".. Studebaker George Ditto for me here! JT > SDC forum is cooling off after a war the likes of the old days HERE.. > Only difference is that the moderator slapped everyone (save for a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > climb back up, but it is still a kind of "leveling".. > Studebaker George On Dec 30, 11:16 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote: > Ditto for me here! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > climb back up, but it is still a kind of "leveling".. > > Studebaker George I would like a formal investigation with the trouble maker banned from the club forever. Any seconds? If someone made up sh.t to destroy someone else they need to be taken out in the woods and tied up for the gators to eat. > On Dec 30, 11:16 pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > someone else they need to be taken out in the woods and tied up for > the gators to eat. Depends on what kind of troublemaker... Some people just find it difficult to face the truth, others are thinned skinned or paranoid. I don't mind an occasional knock down drag out fight.. Not too often mind you.. JT geez.......I check this group every week or so..................and never got into habit of checking the SDC Forum. Guess I've been missing a lot of fellowship.......I'll check it out next time I'm in a bad mood. > SDC forum is cooling off after a war the likes of the old days HERE.. > Only difference is that the moderator slapped everyone (save for a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > climb back up, but it is still a kind of "leveling".. > Studebaker George George, I guess I missed that on. I had been reading the thread on Nimesh, but that one just got locked. What was the thread about that got tossed?? Paul Michael, you won't get any second from ME...at least not yet. As far as I'm concerned a lot of stuff was brought out in the open that needed bringing out. The "great and powerful one" never stepped out of the shadows to defend himself, and that makes it look even worse for him. The evidence is overwhelmingly damning and not one peep out of the accused. I have been "doubting Thomas for" YEARS about the so called "best engine rebuilder bar none" and there was a lare blind following that would attack anyone who even dared question him or his work. I feel vindicated now that much has surfaced, but kind of sad. This guy was put up so high on a pedestal by the forum that his head swelled up to a massive size. His attitude and that of his followers was his main downfall. It was only a matter of time before it all caught up to him. Paul, I would sit here and 'splain what happened, but have to be at work (fixing Studebakers all day like I've done for years) a tad earyl today. I have been a professional wrench all my life and I saw an awful lot of warning signs about the work and knowledge of the "great and powerful one". It is real obvious now that the "emperor has NO clothes".... Studebaker George > Michael, you won't get any second from ME...at least not yet. As far > as I'm concerned a lot of stuff was brought out in the open that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > clothes".... > Studebaker George I know you are a stand up guy George and I believe Nimesh is also. Nimesh built a pair of R4 cylinder heads that are high quality and they flow tested better than the factory heads. I have only had positive experiences with him and his work is beyond question. Just because he does not respond to a trouble maker does not mean he is the bad guy. >> Michael, you won't get any second from ME...at least not yet. As far >> as I'm concerned a lot of stuff was brought out in the open that [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >because he does not respond to a trouble maker does not mean he is the >bad guy. Just for the record, Michael, I know Allen Anderson personally, and I consider him to be an honest and reliable guy. One thing nobody has touched on, in this whole brouhaha, as far as I'm aware, is the possibility that something happened to the engine in transit. How was it shipped? Whose hands did it pass through? Bottom line: is the engine as Allen received it the same one as Nimesh shipped? One other possibility, bizarre though it may sound: could some third party, knowing that Nimesh was building an engine for shipment to Canada, done a B&E on Nimesh's shop, and substituted a painted-up core engine for the finished product, knowing that it would be weeks or months before the substitution came to light? Perhaps a person that might have a vendetta against Nimesh? Seems to me that what is needed here is for both parties in this dispute to agree to an investigation/mediation by a knowledgeable Studebaker engine expert who is not closely identified with either camp. I agree with Bob Shaw's decision to remove the topic from the Forum. With the kind of accusations being hurled around, there could be a threat of legal action by either party. Usenet is unmoderated, so that really doesn't apply here. Bob has to protect the interests of SDC, first and foremost. Gordon Richmond As a moderator, Bob is also an editor and like it or not, it is his judgement call to toss out all the stuff. i don't think it was quite the correct decision, but I am not in his position...thank goodness... I have had discussions with chapter editors before about such things. As far as the engine being stolen or somehow swapped, that sure as hell sounds far fetched to me... Michael, this engine was but one of a long line of red flags over the past few YEARS...If you want I will be more than happy to email you with my observations and those of others that drove me to my conclusions. I had made up my mind way before this past incident. I did not rant and rave like some on BOTH sides did, I pointed out facts and was so dissgusted by the pounding I took for even ASKING about some things that were very obviously wrong that I left the forum for a year. I can rant and rave with the best of 'em...but the facts here are quite a pile and speak for themselves without the rant and rave. I do have my own theories about what has happened and will be glad to share them as long as I don't get hammered for my opinion...if THAT happens, then you will see ME joining the rant 'n rave bunch...<G> Studebaker George PS the thing is still festerin' on the forum... > As a moderator, Bob is also an editor and like it or not, it is his > judgement call to toss out all the stuff. i don't think it was quite [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Studebaker George > PS the thing is still festerin' on the forum... The crank that Allen took a picture of and posted on the forum was not what Nimesh put in the car George. Like I said, this is a smear campaign and is dishonest. OK Michael, let's take this to email...you convince ME and I'll give you my best. NO ranting, No raving.. Worst case is it's a draw..<G> Studebaker George > OK Michael, let's take this to email...you convince ME and I'll give > you my best. > NO ranting, No raving.. > Worst case is it's a draw..<G> > Studebaker George Email me George. And bring the evil cronies on also with their legal actions. I am ready to fight. LOL..."evil cronies"??? I don't even know most of the guys involved! I must be more important than I give myself credit for.... I have no "evil cronies" to bring along, just me and my observations.... I'm not even MAD, actually quite amused and in a good mood... Studebaker George > The crank that Allen took a picture of and posted on the forum was not > what Nimesh put in the car Michael, Your post parallels what is so wrong with the US court/law system - the tendency to try to shift the focus away from the defendant's actions by creating accusations against the victim. Paul > On Dec 31 2008, 9:10 pm, Michael - Roseland FL > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Paul How about the US legal system Paul? Innocent until proven guilty? What I put a post together saying your car did not have a real R1 engine in it. Would everyone just believe me and turn against you because you said it did after I made you out as a lying SOB with fabricated pictures? On Jan 1, 12:33�pm, Michael - Roseland FL <studefana...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Dec 31 2008, 9:10 pm, Michael - Roseland FL > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > because you said it did after I made you out as a lying SOB with > fabricated pictures? Well.....on 9 of the 11 Studebakers I have, you would be right. ;-) Paul |
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