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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / October 2004

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Electronic Key Fobs (ot)

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Jeff Rice - 12 Oct 2004 01:18 GMT
Heard a neat deal on the radio yesterday......

Did you know....
A GM electronic key fob (door lock, unlock, alarm) will work over a phone,
and cellphone?
So, if you lock your keys in the car, you can call home on your cell phone
and have your spouse (or significant other (or perpetual unwed mother
applicant) grab the spare key ring and push the button next to a phone and
unlock your car door.
Pretty neat, huh?
I thought about thieves, but they would have to have your spare key set and
cell phone number, so that is pretty remote (pun intended)...
Jeff (Danger....Danger Will Robinson!) Rice
Loy Daniel - 12 Oct 2004 21:44 GMT
Don't believe it until you try it.

Loy
> Heard a neat deal on the radio yesterday......
>
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> cell phone number, so that is pretty remote (pun intended)...
> Jeff (Danger....Danger Will Robinson!) Rice
--Shiva-- - 13 Oct 2004 05:06 GMT
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:20 -0500,  you wrote:

>Don't believe it until you try it.
>
>Loy
daughter has a 97 GM fob, locks unlocks etc..

she walks through a parking lot, pushing the UNLOCK button, and
on the NEW cars, that sets off the panic alarms..

    --Shiva--
   
   
Craig Parslow - 15 Oct 2004 04:35 GMT
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:20 -0500,  you wrote:
>
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> she walks through a parking lot, pushing the UNLOCK button, and
> on the NEW cars, that sets off the panic alarms..

I'm waiting for the day I hear of a mechanic losing a finger or two while
working under the hood of a car that has a remote starter.   Someone could
have a similar unit in a car nearby, and hit their key fob, and start both
cars.

Craig.

>     --Shiva--
karl haas - 15 Oct 2004 17:27 GMT
It would be nice if new cars had a secondary battery to run the clock
and other stuff, then you could disconnect the main one.

Or install a Green Switch"

Karl

> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:20 -0500,  you wrote:
> >
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>
> >     --Shiva--
Craig Parslow - 17 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
> It would be nice if new cars had a secondary battery to run the clock
> and other stuff, then you could disconnect the main one.
>
> Or install a Green Switch"

Is this for 'long term' storage?  If it is, I have seen an ad somewhere for
a solar trickle charger that you place in your garage window that is about
the size of a licence plate.  And it has two wires that you hook up to your
battery that keeps it at full charge.

Craig.

> Karl
>
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>> >     --Shiva--
Jeff Rice - 17 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
Harbor Freight has those solar chargers for about $10

"Craig Parslow" wrote...
> Is this for 'long term' storage?  If it is, I have seen an ad somewhere
> for a solar trickle charger that you place in your garage window that is
> about the size of a licence plate.  And it has two wires that you hook up
> to your battery that keeps it at full charge.
karl haas - 17 Oct 2004 16:03 GMT
> > It would be nice if new cars had a secondary battery to run the clock
> > and other stuff, then you could disconnect the main one.
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>
> Craig.

No, Craig. I was thinking more along the lines of when you have to do
something on a modern car which involves disconnecting it, like
getting access to something or changing the battery. On some cars, the
radio loses station settings and the clock goes to 18:88.
This may apply when someone puts a new (or newer) radio in a
Studebaker.

Kaarl
I just run a couple of wires to a battery pack before disconnecting
the main battery.
mark dunning - 17 Oct 2004 17:56 GMT
Cheap and easy fix:

Warning - polarity  (Plus and Minus) is important.  If you can't figure out
how to determine which is which, don't try this at home kids.

Take an old cigarette lighter accessory and clip the wires.  Attach the
wires to a 9V battery connector.
Plug the ciggy liter thingie into the obvious place.  Attach a 9V battery to
the other obvious place.

R&R the  big battery

9V is enough input for most "memory" radios.

Mark (larnin' from Gord) Dunning

> > > It would be nice if new cars had a secondary battery to run the clock
> > > and other stuff, then you could disconnect the main one.
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> I just run a couple of wires to a battery pack before disconnecting
> the main battery.
karl haas - 18 Oct 2004 00:19 GMT
As a former Buyer, Development Engineer, Instructor, Program Manager
(Techinal)Safety Officer, & Test Engineer at a small Lithium /
Thionyl-Chloride battery firm, I feel I can check polarity OK, but
your advice is good - things do go BOOM! (I was in charge of the
intentional BOOMS during comparative testing.)
(In my poorer days I took a good cell from a bad car battery to
replace the bad cell in mine. Glad it was 6 VT)
One battery run I had resulted in the delivered custom batteries
costing the customer $10K each, but the device it was to power failed
the tests!

Karl

> Cheap and easy fix:
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Craig Parslow - 18 Oct 2004 02:13 GMT
> No, Craig. I was thinking more along the lines of when you have to do
> something on a modern car which involves disconnecting it, like
> getting access to something or changing the battery. On some cars, the
> radio loses station settings and the clock goes to 18:88.
> This may apply when someone puts a new (or newer) radio in a
> Studebaker.

Seems to me IIRC, a GM shop manual advises the use of a 6V latern battery
for a simple R&R battery job for that reason.

Craig.
Studegary - 15 Oct 2004 19:51 GMT
One of the things that I don't like on electronic key fobs is that the buttons
aren't in the same positions on different manufacturers fobs.  For example, we
currently have two 2001 cars with remotes.  The lock/unlock function buttons
are in opposite places on the two.  This is a nuisance in the dark.  Maybe this
is like automatic shift patterns where they will get to a standardized pattern
in time.  
 
Gary L.  
Studebaker Drivers Club Director - Northeast Zone
36 year member of Studebaker Drivers Club, Inc.
Studegary - 15 Oct 2004 19:55 GMT
>I'm waiting for the day I hear of a mechanic losing a finger or two while
>working under the hood of a car that has a remote starter.

Reminds me of when I was selling cars and a lady came in and said that she had
been all over looking for a used car with remote start and nobody had one.  I
pointed to our used car and said, "Which one do you want?"  She bought a car
from me and $150 later it had remote start and remote entry (door locks).  I
guess that none of the other used car salesmen were smart enough to figure this
out <G>.  

Gary L.  
Studebaker Drivers Club Director - Northeast Zone
36 year member of Studebaker Drivers Club, Inc.
 
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