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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / October 2004

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Heater Motor on Ebay??

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Grumpy au Contraire - 23 Oct 2004 04:23 GMT
I need to replace both motors (heater and defroster) in the '55 Prez
since I changed over to 12 volts.

On ebay, there was this postion:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2495016209&rd=1&ss
pagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT


While it appears to be a possibility, I was taken aback when someone
submitted a question of the compatibility of this motor which is
supposed to be "new" and the seller replied that he didn't know as it
came off a '62 Studebaker"...

?????

Are the under the fender 12 volt generic motors available?

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Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Lee - 23 Oct 2004 04:40 GMT
Definitely looks used to me!  Especially the heavy undercoating that
is on it and smeared on the wires.  I believe you can still get the
correct motor from NAPA bud do not remember the part number.

>I need to replace both motors (heater and defroster) in the '55 Prez
>since I changed over to 12 volts.
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>
>Are the under the fender 12 volt generic motors available?

Lee DeLaBarre
Daytona62
South Ga. 61 Hawk - 23 Oct 2004 04:51 GMT
From our website:
___________________________________

Replacement Heater Fan Blower Motor

Is your blower motor not up to snuff?  You could call Studebaker
International and fork over $85 for a new one.  Or you could check out NAPA
Part Number 655-1025.  It is listed for AMC and Jeep, 71-73 and fits
perfectly.  Better yet the cost is around $40.

___________________________________

Dave Miller
Red62lark - 23 Oct 2004 15:52 GMT
I got the same heater blower motor here at NAPA for my 62 Lark. And yes, it did
fit perfectly. The only difference:mine was only $23.99. And it works GREAT!!!

Shawn Miller
Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 01:21 GMT
> I got the same heater blower motor here at NAPA for my 62 Lark. And yes, it did
> fit perfectly. The only difference:mine was only $23.99. And it works GREAT!!!
>
> Shawn Miller

The motor for the models with under-the-seat heaters has to be weather
proof as it sits in the open fender well...

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Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 01:20 GMT
> From our website:
> ___________________________________
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>
> Dave Miller

Now that's an answer ah likes!!!

Thank you sincerely from the bottom of my wallet...

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Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 01:24 GMT
That was my thought too but then, maybe the original motors were
undercoated to protect 'em from all that tire splashin'...

I think the better cure might to figure a way to house the motor/fan
assy in the engine compartment instead but that would require a little
engineering in the form of fabricating a housing.

JT

> Definitely looks used to me!  Especially the heavy undercoating that
> is on it and smeared on the wires.  I believe you can still get the
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> Lee DeLaBarre
> Daytona62

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Bill Glass - 24 Oct 2004 01:54 GMT
About 5 Yorks ago there was a poor guy walking around the corral with a motor
in his hands, brand new, he had just paid $65 for it.

He was in a panic. Seems some guy was standing next to him when he bought it
and told after the sale that if its the wrong one it would turn the squirrel
gage in the wrong direction.

I do not know much about electronics, but a DC motor can be reversed by
switching polarity right, so what was the panic?
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John Poulos - 24 Oct 2004 02:21 GMT
True, but the trick would be doing the reversing when the negative side
is the motor case bolted to the inner fender.

> About 5 Yorks ago there was a poor guy walking around the corral with a motor
> in his hands, brand new, he had just paid $65 for it.
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> http://bondobilly.com/#stuff
> TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW SHIRTS.....THEY ARE NEAT

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Joel - 24 Oct 2004 02:42 GMT
Yes, but only permanent magnet type DC motors can be reversed by
reversing polarity to the motor.

Joel

> True, but the trick would be doing the reversing when the negative side
> is the motor case bolted to the inner fender.
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>> http://bondobilly.com/#stuff
>> TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW SHIRTS.....THEY ARE NEAT
Gordon Richmond - 28 Oct 2004 07:43 GMT
You can reverse a series-wound DC motor, like the heater motors, by
reversing the connections to the brushes OR to the field. One or the
other other, not both.

The construction of the individual motor usually dictates which
reversal is easiest to perform.

This is why series-wound motors run on AC as well as on DC. Their
direction of rotation is determined by the relationship between the
magnetic poles of the field vs the armature, and not by the direction
of current flow.

Gord Richmond
Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 03:47 GMT
> About 5 Yorks ago there was a poor guy walking around the corral with a motor
> in his hands, brand new, he had just paid $65 for it.
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> I do not know much about electronics, but a DC motor can be reversed by
> switching polarity right, so what was the panic?

Only certain motors reverse...  For example, applying 12 volts to a six
volt starter motor still turns in the same direction.

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Joel - 24 Oct 2004 03:57 GMT
Yes, because unlike a pm motor the 6 volt starter motors use a stator
winding to produce the magnetic field that the armature spins in and
this field reverses when polarity is reversed,

Joel

>>About 5 Yorks ago there was a poor guy walking around the corral with a motor
>>in his hands, brand new, he had just paid $65 for it.
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> Only certain motors reverse...  For example, applying 12 volts to a six
> volt starter motor still turns in the same direction.
Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 04:57 GMT
Joel,

I'm going to try and copy the '31 Chassis/Body Parts book next week.

JT

> Yes, because unlike a pm motor the 6 volt starter motors use a stator
> winding to produce the magnetic field that the armature spins in and
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> > Only certain motors reverse...  For example, applying 12 volts to a six
> > volt starter motor still turns in the same direction.

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Jeffrey DeWitt - 24 Oct 2004 02:53 GMT
Anyone know if NAPA (or whoever) has a blower that will fit on a Champ
(or early Lark)?

Right now I've got just a big hole in the firewall that warm air drifts
through.

Winter is coming and I HATE being cold!

Jeff DeWitt

> I need to replace both motors (heater and defroster) in the '55 Prez
> since I changed over to 12 volts.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Are the under the fender 12 volt generic motors available?
Grumpy au Contraire - 24 Oct 2004 03:51 GMT
> Anyone know if NAPA (or whoever) has a blower that will fit on a Champ
> (or early Lark)?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Get in touch with Mark Frank at (254) 857-8545 during business hours.
He has a bunch of stuff that should fit.

The motor and duct(s) are similar to later Larks as well.

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JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Ron /Champ 6 - 24 Oct 2004 13:21 GMT
I don't have the number handy, but it's a NAPA motor for a late '60s
Jeep.

>Anyone know if NAPA (or whoever) has a blower that will fit on a Champ
>(or early Lark)?
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>>
>> Are the under the fender 12 volt generic motors available?

Ron/Champ 6

1963 8E5 Champ (Champ 6)
1962 Lark Daytona Convertible (Boomerang)
1995 VW Passat (Vanilla..yuk)
1994 Volvo 850 (Tilley)
1973 Volvo 1800 ES (An Clar)
 
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