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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / October 2004Worked on my bucket yesterday
I just want to say thank you to Lee DeLaBarre and Ted Harbit. To Ted for his continuing assistance in helping me with my Hawk's engine woes and Lee for providing his mechanical knowledge, garage, tools, stories, tours, teaching skills, letting me look at his Rune and forgiving my drooling upon it. (You guys are really sick...I'm talking about slobbering all over his Honda bike........geeeeze). Yesterday was a pretty long day. By the time I got back home from Lee's joint I had been up 22 hours. Of course my Golden Retriever thought that would be a good time to take for a walk around the block, so he did. It was good to get out and stretch my legs. All in all, my Hawk is running great and I'm keeping my fingers crossed I don't have any more issues with it. This was the first time Lee and I have spent any time together. After taking the Hawk out for a test run we loaded it up into my trailer, synched it down then we went out for a quick dinner. Had fun. Thanks again Ted and Lee for everything you've done for me. Brad Treganowan 61 Hawk, 4 spd (running REAL strong) Brad, It was my pleasure! Had a great time (other than my F&$@ up early in the day). Hopefully, this will cure the gremlins lurking within and you are more than welcome to come back anytime! >I just want to say thank you to Lee DeLaBarre and Ted Harbit. To Ted for his >continuing assistance in helping me with my Hawk's engine woes and Lee for [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Brad Treganowan >61 Hawk, 4 spd (running REAL strong) Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 > Brad, > > It was my pleasure! Had a great time (other than my F&$@ up early > in the day). Hopefully, this will cure the gremlins lurking within > and you are more than welcome to come back anytime! So are you coming over to the dark side yet or are you still a Lark man? <G> nate (who would *love* to have a '61 4-speed... especially one as pretty as Brad's...)  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel The dark side is not winning me over yet. Yes, it IS a beautiful car and is a blast to drive. Man, I do love a 4-speed! However, I am still a sucker for a Lark and prefer the shorter wheelbase cars. There are a few things Brad wants to take care of on the car and I will be more than happy to assist in any way I can (if he'll let me). By the way, N8, I DO have a '61 Hawk here if you really want one. It is a bit of a project but has new floor pans. <G> >So are you coming over to the dark side yet or are you still a Lark man? <G> > >nate > >(who would *love* to have a '61 4-speed... especially one as pretty as >Brad's...) Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 I have seen that car, and I do believe it started its journey to your place rather close to mine. You will recall that there was no attempt made to divert it from its intended course, this was purely intentional. nate (sometimes that money pit avoidance subroutine actually runs correctly) > The dark side is not winning me over yet. Yes, it IS a beautiful car > and is a blast to drive. Man, I do love a 4-speed! However, I am [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Lee DeLaBarre > Daytona62 Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Hmmmmmmm you seem to be correct N8. I seem to remember bribing you, John and Marsha with a tasty lunch to get you all to help pick that car up and CARRY it to the trailer! Still has that MOPAR clipped frame under it as well. You have to admit, that is a beautiful body tub though. >I have seen that car, and I do believe it started its journey to your >place rather close to mine. You will recall that there was no attempt [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> Lee DeLaBarre >> Daytona62 Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 Oh, I was thinking of the black mess. I thought you were using the good '61 tub for something else? Were I confident that the frame under the black thing was solid, I'd consider a vulcan car meld, but I'm not. Actually I'm not totally opposed to the idea of a mopar suspension but who knows if all the parts are there? nate > Hmmmmmmm you seem to be correct N8. I seem to remember bribing you, > John and Marsha with a tasty lunch to get you all to help pick that [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Lee DeLaBarre > Daytona62 Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Yes, I was going to use that '61 tub but came across a much better '53 coupe tub and am using that instead. The black '61 is spread across the country by now helping others live. >Oh, I was thinking of the black mess. I thought you were using the good >'61 tub for something else? Were I confident that the frame under the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> Lee DeLaBarre >> Daytona62 Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 >my Hawk's engine woes Brad, What did you find wrong??? Inquiring minds want to know<G>. Paul Paul.. Sometime just after returning home from the national meet... the darn thing broke a valve spring. It has the R-3 valve conversion to the heads. I took a trip to my brother's house in Ohio- and being 1/2 way to Brad's.. I went the rest of the way and we swapped out another spring. We thought it was just a fluke, and we had gotten a bad spring. Sometime later, it broke another one... I know Brad hasn't been drag-racing or overrevving it... so It made the (new) springs somewhat suspect. Breaking one is no big deal, but when the 2nd let go... it begged to find out what was causing it. Between Brad, Ted Harbit, and Lee...it was decided the prudent thing to do would be to replace all the springs... So.. Brad took the car to Lee's for the repairs... This is where he'll have to take over.. I don't know what Lee and Brad "found" was wrong, or if it was just a bad set of springs- or whatever... Ray >>my Hawk's engine woes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Paul Could not find anything wrong in the engine other than the broken springs. Found three broken when we pulled it apart on Monday. Now has a replacement set of R2 springs in it and seems to like them. Played with the carb and timing a bit and took it out for a drive. I am thinking I ran the car a bit harder than Brad usually does but he did not complain. It felt pretty good and, after it has some miles on it, I think we can do more to get a bit more pep from it. >Paul.. >Sometime just after returning home from the national meet... the darn thing broke a valve spring. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Paul Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 Lee, I didn't think you ran my car hard at all. If I did think that, you would have known...I'm not too bashful in expressing myself when miffed. I drove the Hawk yesterday afternoon for about 20-25 miles and all seems great. Had my foot in it quite a bit cause it sounds so good when the rest of the carb kicks in. Man I love my Hawk (now that it's fixed, could have sold it for 25 bucks a few days ago.) Brad (smiling again) Treg....... > Could not find anything wrong in the engine other than the broken > springs. Found three broken when we pulled it apart on Monday. Now [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Lee DeLaBarre > Daytona62 I guess I should have pushed a bit harder then (NOT). You are right though, it does sound good and, once it is broken in, I bet will pull like a freight train. I sure seems to want to run. Well $#!T, I guess I should have told you the engine was trash and waved a couple dead presidents in front of your face.... grrrrrrrrrrrrr I miss ALL the good opportunities! Glad you are enjoying the car and I hope it gives many tens of thousands of happy miles to you. You and the car deserve it! >Lee, I didn't think you ran my car hard at all. If I did think that, you >would have known...I'm not too bashful in expressing myself when miffed. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >sold it for 25 bucks a few days ago.) >Brad (smiling again) Treg....... Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 > Lee, I didn't think you ran my car hard at all. You've taken one too many drives with Ray at the wheel of Linda's car. Lee > Paul.. > Sometime just after returning home from the national meet... the darn > thing broke a valve spring. I think it's all that 0-60 in 4.2 seconds while in first gear driving. <G> Lee Brad, Spending a day at "Lee & Debbie's" place is a blast! Can't think of very many others I wouldn't mind spending a day or two with! Great people Jim Turner You got that right Jim. It was fun getting to know Lee as I've only spoken to him twice briefly in the past. Also met Debbie briefly as she was heading off to work and class while Lee stayed home to play with my car. What a slacker. Nice folks indeed. Brad Treg.... > Brad, > Spending a day at "Lee & Debbie's" place is a blast! Can't think of very > many others I wouldn't mind spending a day or two with! Great people > > Jim Turner Brad, Seems to me the pot is calling the kettle black! <SNIP> . >What a slacker. <SNIP> >Brad Treg.... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Jim Turner Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 Hey Lee, you know I love a good hard working slacker. People who have not mastered the art of slacking have no idea what they are missing. Brad (President / CEO Slackers r Us) Treg......(see, I'm too busy slacking to type my full last name. > Brad, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Lee DeLaBarre > Daytona62 Hey Jimmy, Why don't you take a day or two off before Reedsville and come on up? Would love to have company and it would give you a chance to spend some quality time with what's left of that convertible! >Brad, > Spending a day at "Lee & Debbie's" place is a blast! Can't think of very >many others I wouldn't mind spending a day or two with! Great people > >Jim Turner Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 Lee, I seem to be spending too much time with the 62 ragtop I have at the shop! <G> Found out the other 1/4 to door gap was also a "make a gap" with bondo! Geeesh! I have to cut the floor on the right side also, and use a come a long to "make a real gap" I'm going to write to "somebody" so that "morons" can't buy bondo! Hey! the gap is too big, I know, I'll fill it up and "make a gap" with bondo, after I use my roller and paint it, nobody will know! It should be illegal for paint stores to sell bondo to amateurs! Jim (people amaze me) Turner Well, at least you know there is no Bondo in the '64. Hell, there's no metal left in the '64 either <G> >Lee, > I seem to be spending too much time with the 62 ragtop I have at the shop! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It should be illegal for paint stores to sell bondo to amateurs! > Jim (people amaze me) Turner Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 > Lee, > I seem to be spending too much time with the 62 ragtop I have at the shop! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It should be illegal for paint stores to sell bondo to amateurs! > Jim (people amaze me) Turner Sometimes bondo is a useful thing. Such as using on the typical wide gaps that T-Cabs have on the front door to windshild/cowl area. It's the only way to fix a bad factory fit, (or should I say a horrendous factory fit?). SignatureJT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 Mine fits great! What'd you do wrong? Actually, you must have a lemon...bad door fit, cracked cowl at the brake M/C, bad clutch linkage....I'll take that lemon off your hands! <G> >> Lee, >> I seem to be spending too much time with the 62 ragtop I have at the shop! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >door to windshild/cowl area. It's the only way to fix a bad factory >fit, (or should I say a horrendous factory fit?). Ron/Champ 6 1963 8E5 Champ (Champ 6) 1962 Lark Daytona Convertible (Boomerang) 1995 VW Passat (Vanilla..yuk) 1994 Volvo 850 (Tilley) 1973 Volvo 1800 ES (An Clar) My old T-Cab back in RI had good fit but this one did not. I've seen quite a few that don't and I suspect that it was a factory error fixture-wise. But the magic of bondo (seven years ago) fixed it just fine and it's holding up just fine. Sometimes bondo is good and sometimes, well what more can I say? JT > Mine fits great! What'd you do wrong? Actually, you must have a > lemon...bad door fit, cracked cowl at the brake M/C, bad clutch [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Ron/Champ 6 > SignatureJT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 You can't find 2 nicer people than TED and LEE! |
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