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Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? >Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? <http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/outback/100397584/specs.html?tid=edmunds. n.researchlanding.leftsidenav..8.Subaru*> My '01 was built in Indiana, Edmunds dosen't specify where in the USA the '05's are built. Barry > Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? I believe all Legacy, Outback and Baja models sold in North America are made in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Impreza based vehicles sold here are made in Japan. >> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? > >I believe all Legacy, Outback and Baja models sold in North America are >made in Fort Wayne, Indiana. > >Impreza based vehicles sold here are made in Japan. Actually, the US Subaru plant is in West Lafayette, Indiana. Yup Lafayette Indiana. And Bob Rohrman Subaru just down the road from the factory has the best Subaru service. >>> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Actually, the US Subaru plant is in West Lafayette, Indiana. Is the Indiana plant a UAW plant? > Yup Lafayette Indiana. And Bob Rohrman Subaru just down the road from the > factory has the best Subaru service. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Actually, the US Subaru plant is in West Lafayette, Indiana. Unfortunately, Indiana  SignatureIf a job's worth doin' it's worth doing twice! > Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? The last time a reliability comparison was questioned the answer was the quality of Japanese vs. American made was the same. > Unfortunately, Indiana > >> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? Re: "The last time a reliability comparison was questioned the answer was the quality of Japanese vs. American made was the same." Seriously doubt that. SignatureIf a job's worth doin' it's worth doing twice! > > "H" <a3a44058@telus.net> wrote in message > news:MEmme.32123$tt5.9732@edtnps90... >> Unfortunately, Indiana >> >>> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? Well, long ago anyway, after Honda began building vehicles here in the U.S., Consumers Union could detect no difference. Also, at one time Toyota's most 'efficient' (no, I have no idea how they measured it) facility was an engine assembly plant in the U.S. And, as relates to Subaru, I believe the japanese assembled vehicles and engines have had the bad wheel bearings, rattling heat shields, fuel leaks and leaking head gaskets. Still, I believe almost ALL cars are significantly better than they were in the past - 80s and before certainly. Carl > Re: "The last time a reliability comparison was questioned the answer was > the quality of Japanese vs. American made was the same." > > Seriously doubt that. Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) Are you saying Americans can't build cars? I'll admit in the late '70 to early 80's the US made some really crappy cars. But, now they are alot better and make cars as good as anyone else. But, are saying american can't built cars? They are using the same parts, and equipment as in Japan to build the cars. Only using America workers. So are you saying Americans can't build cars? Very "good" car manufacture company around the world now build their "good" cars in the US with our "sub-par" worker and their Quality records have not down. More keep coming every year. So what do you mean by" Unfortunately, Indiana" ? > Re: "The last time a reliability comparison was questioned the answer was > the quality of Japanese vs. American made was the same." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> >>>> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? I've heard that BMW's most reliable car ever is the Z3/Z4 series -- made is South Carolina. > Are you saying Americans can't build cars? I'll admit in the late '70 to > early 80's the US made some really crappy cars. But, now they are alot [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>> >>>>> Curious, where specifically are Subaru Outback wagon's built? >Quality records have not down. More keep coming every year. So what do you >mean by" Unfortunately, Indiana" ? My Indiana-built subie and California-built Toyota are top notch! My Tennessee-built Nissan was a pig. Barry > My Indiana-built subie and California-built Toyota are top notch! My Indiana-built 2001 OBW is a well-built car. SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >>My Indiana-built subie and California-built Toyota are top notch! > > My Indiana-built 2001 OBW is a well-built car. And final assembly is just one of many parts of the process of making a car. Tom >And final assembly is just one of many parts of the process of making a car. True! Thanks for reminding me that Japanese engineering is outstanding. >>And final assembly is just one of many parts of the process of making a car. > > True! > > Thanks for reminding me that Japanese engineering is outstanding. And the parts are made in Japan. Tom >And the parts are made in Japan. So what? Harley guys love their "American choppers" but to my knowledge an American built (assembled is more like it) hog has more foreign made parts than an American built Honda Goldwing which is a Japanese bike. Go figure... I bet it's the same for Honda cars and Subi cars built/assembled in America. >>And the parts are made in Japan. > > So what? >Harley guys love their "American choppers" but to my knowledge an American >built (assembled is more like it) hog has more foreign made parts than an >American built Honda Goldwing which is a Japanese bike. Go figure Worse! Harleys now contain lots of CHINESE chrome. <G> Non union assembly of a well designed car using quality components makes for a long lasting vehicle. Ford donates $1000 for every jag and $500 for every volvo sold to groups wanting gay marriage. Guess who is really making those donations-- Ford customers. www.boycottford.com Jabario ya knob, piss off! SignatureIf a job's worth doin' it's worth doing twice! > Non union assembly of a well designed car using quality components > makes for a long lasting vehicle. Ford donates $1000 for every jag and > $500 for every volvo sold to groups wanting gay marriage. Guess who is > really making those donations-- Ford customers. > > www.boycottford.com > Non union assembly of a well designed car using quality components > makes for a long lasting vehicle. Ford donates $1000 for every jag and > $500 for every volvo sold to groups wanting gay marriage. Guess who is > really making those donations-- Ford customers. > > www.boycottford.com Well, that's one way to end a conversation! Tom > Non union assembly of a well designed car using quality components > makes for a long lasting vehicle. Are the foreign companies' (Subaru, Toyota, BMW etc.) US plants all non-union? What did the UAW think of that? SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >>Non union assembly of a well designed car using quality components >>makes for a long lasting vehicle. > > Are the foreign companies' (Subaru, Toyota, BMW etc.) US plants all non-union? > What did the UAW think of that? You can bet that Subaru Japan cars are union-made. Totally different culture though. That's what I meant. US auto workers get too much in the way of pay and benefits . One neighbor was laid off from ford edison, nj plant yet still was paid. I believe they call it a severence package.... > That's what I meant. US auto workers get too much in the way of pay > and benefits . One neighbor was laid off from ford edison, nj plant > yet still was paid. In article <Rimqe.3237$%j7.1472 @newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, m.l.l.o.y.d.u.s.c. @.y.a.h.o.o...c.o.m says... > I believe they call it a severence package.... > > > That's what I meant. US auto workers get too much in the way of pay > > and benefits . One neighbor was laid off from ford edison, nj plant > > yet still was paid. Guess it's only ok when management receives it, jabari0? There's a problem with unskilled workers can earn a ridiculously high pay rate along with other unnecessary benefits. This causes their employer to skimp on quality parts leading to the poor quality of Ford vehicles. Fires, rollovers etc are common simply because ford cannot afford to buy top shelf components. > I believe they call it a severence package.... > You can bet that Subaru Japan cars are union-made. > Totally different culture though. Are Indiana-built Subies union-made? SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >>You can bet that Subaru Japan cars are union-made. >>Totally different culture though. > > Are Indiana-built Subies union-made? I don't know for sure, but I believe mine had a "Union Made" sticker on it. >> You can bet that Subaru Japan cars are union-made. >> Totally different culture though. > >Are Indiana-built Subies union-made? Yes, as is my NUMMI built Toyota Tacoma. The same UAW represented plant ships Japanese market cars OUT of the US. I think buy-union.com (or .org) has info stating the location and representation of many US market cars. Barry http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2005.cfm is a page listing cars built by UAW members for 2005. Blair >>> You can bet that Subaru Japan cars are union-made. >>> Totally different culture though. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Barry > http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2005.cfm > > is a page listing cars built by UAW members for 2005. Doesn't include Subaru. Is the Indiana plant non-union? SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >Is the Indiana plant non-union? I am surprised that more alt.autos.subaru readers haven't read the book _On the Line at Subaru-Isuzu: The Japanese Model and the American Worker_ by Laurie Graham. Look here: [ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0875463460 ]. Here is the information about the (non-union) Indiana plant: [ http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_of_Indiana_Automotive ] [ http://www.subaru.com/common/about/about_indiana.jsp ]: [ http://www.subaru-sia.com/ ] [ http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/120/120065.html ] [ http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/10/31/149777.html ] |
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