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higgledy - 03 Apr 2006 00:55 GMT
I bought my first Subaru last January. Now that the weather is warmer I
notice the hill holder seems to engage more often or with a tighter
grip. Is this due to the warm weather or does my car need an
adjustment?

Thank You in advance for any responses.
wiz561@gmail.com - 03 Apr 2006 22:43 GMT
What kind of Subaru did you get and what is the year of it?

I have a 2006 outback sport...and unless I'm stupid, my hillstopper
doesn't work.
higgledy - 04 Apr 2006 04:06 GMT
I have a 2006 Forester 2.5X MT
Rick Courtright - 06 Apr 2006 19:32 GMT
> I have a 2006 outback sport...and unless I'm stupid, my hillstopper
> doesn't work.

Hi,

Assuming the "new" system works the same as the "old" one, you should be
able to adjust it easily enough.

As for operation in day to day life, mine works only with the nose up a
few degrees, enough the car would roll back as another poster described.
The clutch must be depressed ALL the way, and the brake depressed fully
AFTER the clutch pedal is "in." Then the brake foot can go to the
throttle pedal, and the instant the clutch is released a few mm, the
hillholder lets go. When properly adjusted it works in a fairly
"invisible" mode.

It might take a bit of fiddling to get it just where you like it, but
it's only time consuming, not hard work!

Good luck,

Rick
Fuzzy Logic - 06 Apr 2006 20:59 GMT
>> I have a 2006 outback sport...and unless I'm stupid, my hillstopper
>> doesn't work.
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>
> Rick

Are you sure your model has hill holder? I have an 2003 Impreza wagon and it
definitely doesn't. I believe the 2003+ Forester has it but I'm not sure
what other vehicles are equipped with it.
wiz561@gmail.com - 07 Apr 2006 15:10 GMT
Thank you!  I thought I was the only one without it!!!  Everybody keeps
talking about it and it sounds like it's on all the subaru lines...but
I have an outback sport (which is very close to the impreza wagon), and
I swear I don't have one.  Maybe I'm not depressing the clutch all the
way, considering that it sounds like it only needs a few mm to kick
in/release it.  Maybe I'll play around more with it to see what happens
today.
Fuzzy Logic - 07 Apr 2006 23:29 GMT
"wiz561@gmail.com" <wiz561@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144419026.748891.45290
@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Thank you!  I thought I was the only one without it!!!  Everybody keeps
> talking about it and it sounds like it's on all the subaru lines...but
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> in/release it.  Maybe I'll play around more with it to see what happens
> today.

I'm not sure what country you are in but I believe in North America the only
Subaru with hill holder is the Forester (2003+)
wiz561@gmail.com - 08 Apr 2006 13:28 GMT
That might explain why my hill holder doesn't work.  lol.  

Thanks!
yngver - 10 Apr 2006 18:22 GMT
> "wiz561@gmail.com" <wiz561@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144419026.748891.45290
> @z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm not sure what country you are in but I believe in North America the only
> Subaru with hill holder is the Forester (2003+)

No, my husband's 1999 Legacy has it. He didn't know it, though, for the
first few months, until he complained to the dealer about something
rattling, and the service guy told him his hill holder cable had come
loose.
-yngver
Mike Deskevich - 10 Apr 2006 19:41 GMT
i think it depends on which engine and clutch you have.  my '99 legacy
gt with the 2.5 has a hydraulic clutch and no hill holder.  my friends
'99 legacy with the 2.2 has the cable actuated clutch with a hill
holder.
yngver - 10 Apr 2006 19:50 GMT
> i think it depends on which engine and clutch you have.  my '99 legacy
> gt with the 2.5 has a hydraulic clutch and no hill holder.  my friends
> '99 legacy with the 2.2 has the cable actuated clutch with a hill
> holder.

Yes, I should have mentioned it's the 1999 Legacy Wagon 30th
Anniversary edition. My 2006 Forester has the hill holder feature, but
I'm not sure I'm using it. If you have to set it, I don't.
-Yngver
eachcornerpulling - 11 Apr 2006 16:47 GMT
>Yes, I should have mentioned it's the 1999 Legacy Wagon 30th
>Anniversary edition. My 2006 Forester has the hill holder feature, but
>I'm not sure I'm using it. If you have to set it, I don't.

I had this feature on an '89 Subaru GL but never used it. I just don't
trust the things not to fail after stopping on a steep hill. Far
better to learn how to use the regular brakes and clutch properly,
then you can also safely drive other makes without this feature :-)
ME - 12 Apr 2006 04:11 GMT
It's actually working pretty well. I have tried it on a steep hill and it  
worked. The only problem is that I have to get use to the annoying hill  
holder when I back out from my driveway.

>> Yes, I should have mentioned it's the 1999 Legacy Wagon 30th
>> Anniversary edition. My 2006 Forester has the hill holder feature, but
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> better to learn how to use the regular brakes and clutch properly,
> then you can also safely drive other makes without this feature :-)
yngver - 17 Apr 2006 19:19 GMT
> It's actually working pretty well. I have tried it on a steep hill and it
> worked. The only problem is that I have to get use to the annoying hill
> holder when I back out from my driveway.

Is this supposed to work this way? I've had trouble with backing out
slowly ever since getting the car a few months ago, but I just thought
that's the way it's supposed to be. However, my husband drove my
Forester this weekend and he said the hill hold clutch is not supposed
to be engaging unless you are on a steep grade. He has no trouble
backing or rolling ahead slowing with his Subaru Legacy with hill hold.
He wants me to take the Forester to the dealer to have them adjust the
hill hold. Is your driveway on a steep grade? Ours is level so I guess
it shouldn't really be engaging.
-yngver
Victor Roberts - 26 Apr 2006 16:04 GMT
>> It's actually working pretty well. I have tried it on a steep hill and it
>> worked. The only problem is that I have to get use to the annoying hill
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>it shouldn't really be engaging.
>-yngver

I'm not sure that the hill holder senses the grade, but it
should not interfere with backing up.  When I test drove a
2006 Forester I had trouble backing it into the parking
space after the test drive and spoke with the service
manager.  He said that the hill holder could be adjusted to
solve that problem.

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Vic Roberts
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Blair Baucom - 05 Apr 2006 00:44 GMT
Mine grips harder depending on how hard I press the brake. Mine only engages
if I am on a slope steep enough that I could roll backwards, which is most
anywhere that is not flat or downhill.

Blair

>I bought my first Subaru last January. Now that the weather is warmer I
> notice the hill holder seems to engage more often or with a tighter
> grip. Is this due to the warm weather or does my car need an
> adjustment?
>
> Thank You in advance for any responses.
hippo - 05 Apr 2006 12:58 GMT
>I bought my first Subaru last January. Now that the weather is warmer I
>notice the hill holder seems to engage more often or with a tighter
>grip. Is this due to the warm weather or does my car need an
>adjustment?

>Thank You in advance for any responses.

Check the free play adjustment on your clutch cable, then readjust the hh
cable if necessary.
Steep *deserted* hill and a tame driver who you trust while you wield the
spanners is my preferred quick way of doing it. Cheers
 
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