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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / April 2006Subaru, what are you doing?
I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the Impreza with the round headlights. > I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. I presume when the new car won't get you through 6 inches of snow over ice in DC or some other backwater you will be able to admire that grill. The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying toward you. I have an 06 wrx and think they're the most agressive looking one's yet. Considering this is the first year of the 2.5l in the standard WRX, the bigger brakes, available leather interior and electronic valve timing control, this may be the best WRX ever. > The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The > grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying > toward you. I have an 06 wrx and think they're the most agressive > looking one's yet. Considering this is the first year of the 2.5l in > the standard WRX, the bigger brakes, available leather interior and > electronic valve timing control, this may be the best WRX ever. Yeah, I don't shop for grills when I car shop. Carl  Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) > The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The > grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying > toward you. I have an 06 wrx and think they're the most agressive > looking one's yet. Considering this is the first year of the 2.5l in > the standard WRX, the bigger brakes, available leather interior and > electronic valve timing control, this may be the best WRX ever. Oh, don't forget the extra bricks added to the roof and the wheels of the STI Limited arriving this fall. Goes well with the ugly nose. I'm soooo glad I got the MY2005 before the uglification took place. I'd get EVO over STI if only for the fact that the nose does not look so ugly. Anyhow, it's hard to please everyone. But I did like the designs of the first frenchman better. > You'll get used to it. Let's face it, Subarus have never been style icons. Why get used to it when there is non uglified Evo? A4 never looked ugly either. Legacy looks quite good also. But Subaru always would fine some way to make the Impreza sheet metal ugly. Hmm, didn't we have the same discussion during the bug eyey years? > Why get used to it when there is non uglified Evo? When I was looking, the STi came with more options available, like the 6-CD deck, or, like cruise control, as standard. I like those because I drive it a lot as our regular family car, etc. I don't know what you can get the Evo with these days, mind, but I'm the sort of person who'd eye STI Limiteds with interest: maybe things have changed, but I'd thought of the Evo as being more for hardcore racers than people wanting more all-round use from their car. -- Mark I think the only creature comfort feature available on RS is an air conditioning. Which is all I need. But let me put it this way: the $5k of a difference between RS and STI buys a LOT of sound deadening materials, stereo equipment and labor. Cruise control is nice as a ticket avoidance crutch though. Well, at least one less lever to rattle I guess. > of the Evo as being more for hardcore racers than people wanting more > all-round use from their car. If that's what you want why don't you give Legacy spec B a try? It's 200lbs heavier than STI but still lighter than the MazdaSpeed6. Mazda truck is $7k cheaper though. > The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The > grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying > toward you. I have an 06 wrx and think they're the most agressive > looking one's yet. Considering this is the first year of the 2.5l in > the standard WRX, the bigger brakes, available leather interior and > electronic valve timing control, this may be the best WRX ever. The Ki-43 Oscar, Ki-84 Frank and the Ki-115 kamikaze special all with radial engines. Fuji Heavy Industries was known as Nakajima Aviation then, after the war the first Subaru was a light plane the Fuji FA200 Aero Subaru. > The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The > grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying > toward you. I have an 06 wrx and think they're the most agressive > looking one's yet. Considering this is the first year of the 2.5l in > the standard WRX, the bigger brakes, available leather interior and > electronic valve timing control, this may be the best WRX ever. Leather interior?? Nice... hope that comes to Australia... too late for me though... went out and got a Forester. Personally I don't mind the new nose, but I think it would look strange on the Forester, Outback or Liberty (Legacy). We don't have the B9 Tribeca here yet (later in the year is what Subaru Australia are saying), but from what I've seen of the B9, it doesn't look awful on that either. Each to their own on this one... ...Ric SignatureSend email to Ric using: rdefrance_NO_SPAM_@_NO_SPAM_gmail.com Just remove both instances of "_NO_SPAM_" == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gentoooo-hooo!! == > The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The > grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying > toward you. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Yeah.....just like at Pearl Harbor in 1941 ; ) ; ) (...only the problem is when the head gasket in your Subie Horiz-opposed engine fails, as 80% of them will do, like the rolling time-bombs that they are, you prolly will not have enough compression to crash it Kamakazie-Style thru the Subaru dealership's front showroom window) >>The grille is supposed to reflect subaru's heritage in aviation. The >>grille is supposed to look like a coupe of wings (like a plane flying [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > not have enough compression to crash it Kamakazie-Style > thru the Subaru dealership's front showroom window) Do you have a reliable source for the 80% figure? Or even 10%? Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >>I presume when the new car won't get you through 6 inches of snow over ice in DC or some other backwater you will be able to admire that grill. << Are you that stupid to think Subarus are the only good foul weather vehicles? Any AWD or 4WD will be fine in the snow. I will probably avoid buying another Subaru until they go back to the 00-04 outback style. Dont get me started on that awful trbeca POS > vehicles? Any AWD or 4WD will be fine in the snow. I will probably Well, it seems that some AWD systems are just AWD on paper. There was a video by some swedish guy ages ago showing an Outback and some volvo towing a trailer on a level muddy terrain and up an unpaved hill. For some reason he kept getting the volvo stuck. Again, this is a recent example of a car with a six digit price tag useless off road: http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/10911 Or maybe it's just that the Porsche did not bid high enough for the C&D centerfold :-] > style. Dont get me started on that awful trbeca POS Speaking of minivans. Tribeca was the first one with the awful grill and why did not Subaru add the sliding doors? I think the utility of it with the hinged doors is greatly reduced for the people with kids. Or maybe some kids are careful opening them without trashing M5 parked nearby? If there are bmw owners retarded enough park next to a minivan. That's the first time I noticed how ugly Subaru has become (the Tribecca). Then while researching cars online I saw they also ruined (in my opinion) the looks of the Impreza, the new look reminds me of the old Dodge K cars. Of course not everyone's tastes are the same, but the absolute lack of Tribecca's I see on the road tells me I'm not alone in thinking this is one of the worst looking cars. Don't get me wrong, Subaru makes great cars (I have an older Impreza myself and am quite happy), I just think the new look is horrible. > wrong, Subaru makes great cars (I have an older Impreza myself and am > quite happy), I just think the new look is horrible. Well, you should drive a new one. I don't think you'd want to trade in. When I bought my OB Sport I was thinking: heck let them sort out WRX further, put a detuned STI plant in and I'll sit it out and trade in a 3-4 years down the road. Now that I drove OB Sport for a while and get a feeling of the slightly numb steering and the brake feel far from stellar along with the lackluster NA engine response and tranny far from buttery smooth I think I'll pass on the WRX trade in altogether. RX-8 might not be nearly as fast but at least it should be way more pleasant to drive. SI Drive senor? Si si! >>vehicles? Any AWD or 4WD will be fine in the snow. I will probably > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > maybe some kids are careful opening them without trashing M5 parked > nearby? If there are bmw owners retarded enough park next to a minivan. I think it is supposed to be more SUV-ish than Minivan-ish. In my opinion, Subaru is too late and misguided to chase that market. Still, I suspect the sliding doors will be coming soon enough. Personally, I'd rather see the R1 or R2 over here. maybe with an all electric option too. I dunno Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >>I presume when the new car won't get you through 6 inches of snow over ice in DC or some other backwater you will be able to admire that grill. << Are you that stupid to think Subarus are the only good foul weather vehicles? Any AWD or 4WD will be fine in the snow. I will probably avoid buying another Subaru until they go back to the 00-04 outback style. Dont get me started on that awful trbeca POS I actually got the RAV4, so no, I will not be stuck in the snow. But you check your testicles at the door when driving a RAV But you check your testicles at the door when driving a RAV But you check your testicles at the door when driving a RAV The new '06 is actually pretty good looking (not like the jelly bean shape of the previous generation). You'll get used to it. Let's face it, Subarus have never been style icons. >I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. Greg R scribbled: > I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. Hey, what do you have against the round lights? I love my bug-eyed Impreza... > Hey, what do you have against the round lights? I love my bug-eyed > Impreza... Yeah... but I don't think many other people liked them... I didn't have a problem with them either way... but as history has shown, they went from slits, to bug-eyes, to what looks like an aggresive squint... At least Imprezas and B9s front don't look like "Aston Martin's catfish gulping water" front... Let me go get into my asbestos suit now after that comment... :-) ...Ric SignatureSend email to Ric using: rdefrance_NO_SPAM_@_NO_SPAM_gmail.com Just remove both instances of "_NO_SPAM_" == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gentoooo-hooo!! == > I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. If you want to read a full run-down on the 2007 Spec B and features that will be added to the other 2007 Legacy products: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/15/new-york-auto-show-subaru-shows-2007-legacy-g t-spec-b/ I think the designers at FHI are smoking pot between their lunchtime trips to the Sushi Bar. > I think the designers at FHI are smoking pot between their > lunchtime trips to the Sushi Bar. You do know that it is an Italian designer responsible for the flying vagina nose right? (I he may be a pot smoker - I dunno). Anyway, when I'm driving my '06 WRX wagon, I can't see it - nor do I care. I don't think there has EVER been a Subaru made that would appeal to me on looks alone. That's not what I shop for. Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. the B9 is one of the ugliest designs ever reminds me of the days in the 70's when Subaru's were just butt-ugly well... maybe not that bad >I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. I think it's a lot like the front end on the new Audi's. You either love it or hate it. Personally I don't like 'em, but when you add a front license plate it changes the look quite a bit. > I just have to ask, does anyone else find the new subaru front-ends > absolutely hideous? The B9 and Impreza's are the only ones to have > this look so far. What are they thinking with the large triangle-like > grill in the center? We just bought a new car and didn't even consider > Subaru because of this. Hopefully this new look goes the way of the > Impreza with the round headlights. For what it's worth I just got an email from the Subaru people saying the 2007s will be out in July. Quote from a blog I cited above: "All Legacy models for 2007 feature, as standard equipment, the Subaru Advanced Frontal Air Bag System, front seat side impact air bags, active front seat head restraints and side curtain air bags." |
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