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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / May 2006

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2006 forester vs. 1999 forester

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Lila Hanft - 20 May 2006 03:41 GMT
I have a 1999 Subaru Forester with about 125,000 miles on it.  I am
shopping for a new car & am considering another Forester, but there are a
few things I don't like about my 1999 model.
-The seatbelts - none of them retract smoothly; they often jam.  
-The retractable cargo cover -- three or four years ago, the little plastic
stoppers that hold the cover over began wearing out/coming off (I fix them
sporadically with duct tape).
-Oil consumption -- this car has always consumed an unusually large amount
of oil -- maybe a quart a month. No mechanic has ever figured out why that
is.
-Backseat leg room -- very meager.

So, if you own a new or late model Forester, can you tell me if you have
trouble with the seat belts, cargo cover, or oil consumption? I hope that
in subsequent model years those flaws were corrected.

Thanks,
Lila
Holly Wood - 20 May 2006 11:44 GMT
Oil consumption is a major concern with current 2.5 Forester engine!

>I have a 1999 Subaru Forester with about 125,000 miles on it.  I am
> shopping for a new car & am considering another Forester, but there are a
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> Thanks,
> Lila
QX - 20 May 2006 13:00 GMT
I have a (USA) 2005 Forester 2.5XT with 18,000 miles, no problems
whatsover. And while I check the oil weekly, I see  ZERO oil
consumption betwen oil changes.

>Oil consumption is a major concern with current 2.5 Forester engine!
>
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>> Thanks,
>> Lila
Tony Burns (permanent dismisser of Andy, AJS and ]v[etaphoid - 20 May 2006 13:52 GMT
Not with mine!

> Oil consumption is a major concern with current 2.5 Forester engine!
>
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> > Thanks,
> > Lila
R Sweeney - 21 May 2006 02:06 GMT
> Oil consumption is a major concern with current 2.5 Forester engine!

Not mine.
Frank - 20 May 2006 13:19 GMT
I went from a '98 to an '03 three years ago when my '98 was totaled.
Did not have seat belt or oil problems with either but I don't put on
high mileage.  Think cargo cover is the same and I had same problem
with old one.  Cup holders changed to avoid spillage on radio, out door
thermometer added and automatic shifter indexed.  Roof rack eliminates
screwed in ridges which could have been leak point.  I've been happy
with my Foresters and will get one for my wife if/when her Nissan dies.
Frank
higgledy - 20 May 2006 23:38 GMT
I have an 06 2.5X with premium package. I do not have any of your
problems except for the meager leg room in the rear seat.
Boris - 21 May 2006 09:18 GMT
>I have a 1999 Subaru Forester with about 125,000 miles on it.  I am
> shopping for a new car & am considering another Forester, but there are a
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> trouble with the seat belts, cargo cover, or oil consumption? I hope that
> in subsequent model years those flaws were corrected.
I have a 2001 Forester S automatic with premium package. Rear leg room is
definitely tight. But other issues you mention don't seem to apply in my
case.
One complaint I have: the engine isn't powerful enough, especially at higher
elevations...every day driving (I don't live in mountain area) is fine...but
whenever I go to the mountains, the engine power (or is it transmission?)
seem not very strong.

Boris
QX - 21 May 2006 15:14 GMT
>One complaint I have: the engine isn't powerful enough, especially at higher
>elevations...every day driving (I don't live in mountain area) is fine...but
>whenever I go to the mountains, the engine power (or is it transmission?)
>seem not very strong.
>
>Boris

(USA 2005 XT) That's where the XT shines.  No problems with a lack of
power at higher elevations. Driving through Mountain Pass between Las
Vegas and Baker (I-15), it cruises right along passing most other
cars.
I live in the Las Vegas metro area regularly drive it up into the
local Spring Mountains for hiking trips. The Lee Canyon route is from
2500' (town)  to 7800' (trailheads) carrying 4 adults with hiking
gear. No shuttling back and forth between gears like other cars I have
been in on that road..
While up in the Lake Tahoe area it cruised along on US-50 climbing up
to the Tahoe basin from both the Placerville and the Carson City
sides. On one side trip we drove up from Gardnerville into Stateline
via the Kingsbury Grade and had fun driving on the twisty mountain
road.
On the way home we stopped into visit the Inyo National Forest,
Bristlecone Pine (Patriarch Grove). This route starts climbing in Big
Pine, CA, at just under 4000' and ends at about 11000'. Excellent
performer.
Complaints? (Sort of, but not really) The turbo requires the use of
premium grade gas 91/93 octane. That puts the fuel cost at 20 cents
per gallon more than regular.  The other problem is with have a faster
car, you tend to drive a little faster, and the gas mileage drops as
you push the turbo. . But to me it's worth a few extra dollars a week
in fuel costs.

These stats are from Car & Driver
2006 model:
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/9837/subaru-forester-25xt-limited.html

0 to 30 mph  in 1.5 sec
Zero to 60 mph: 5.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: .15.8 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 7.3 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 96 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 128 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.75 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 19 mpg
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve flat-4,
aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 150 cu in, 2457cc
Power (SAE net): 230 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 235 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
C/D-observed fuel economy: 18 mpg

2005 model:
http://www.caranddriver.com/besttrucks/9164/5best-trucks-page3.html
QX - 21 May 2006 15:15 GMT
I should add that I have the automatic transmission.

>(USA 2005 XT) That's where the XT shines.  
 
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