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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / January 2008'01 Forester Cat converter question
Hi, My daughter's 2001 Forester with 90K miles had a 'Check engine' light come on today. She took it to Auto-zone who read the code and said it points to a bad catalytic converter. She made an appointment with a mechanic (she's 90 miles away at college) she's used who asked if she wanted a new converter or did she want him to look for a low mileage used part. Is a used converter a good idea? Any idea what a parts and labor for a new converter should run? I'm hoping the car will last her a few years and its been running ok before this. The only work its needed other than maintenance items is a CV joint and axle last summer. Thanks in advance, Jon > Is a used converter a good idea? Any idea what a parts and labor for a new > converter should run? I think these are illegal. There is some federal law prohibiting tampering with emmissions controls systems and catalytic converters fall under this. Get a new one, there are plenty of inexpensive generics. M.J. > I'm hoping the car will last her a few years and its been running ok > before this. The only work its needed other than maintenance items is a CV [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jon If it works and you pass emissions and visual inspections its not illegal!!!!! I'd be leery as the used converter might have come from another 90k car. From a late model low mile wreck it might be a good choise. > > Is a used converter a good idea? Any idea what a parts and labor for a new > > converter should run? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the convertor. More likely just the fron O2 sensor needs replaced. Can't legally purchase a used convertor so that option is out. just replace the front sensor. -- Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru/ More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html > Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer > quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru/ > More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html Good post/advice. The system has only one way to 'suggest' a bad converter and it is a change in readings between the 'upstream' and 'downstream' O2 sensors. A bad or 'lazy' sensor can (and usually will) trigger a cat. conv. type failure code. The upstream converters also begin getting old between 70K-120K miles or so. less if the car has ever had a problem where it ran 'rich' or leaked coolant. I'd be tempted to clear the code once or twice and monitor how quickly it returns. And find a mechanic who will scope the O2 sensors to see if they are switching in the right range. Carl  Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >> Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer >> quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Carl Hi, Wasn't there a bad sensor recall TSB around that year? >> Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer >> quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > returns. And find a mechanic who will scope the O2 sensors to see if they > are switching in the right range. Carl, Great advice but my daughter already put the car in the shop. Hopefully they'll just find a faulty O2 sensor. Jon >> Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer >> quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Carl Carl, The mechanic couldn't find anything wrong so he just reset the code. He did a 90k maintenance which included new plugs, filters and fluids. She's put ~150 miles on it since then with no recurrence. Also, Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions. You folks were a big help. Regards, Jon > Recently saw someone else post the same question except he got a dealer > quote...$2500. More then likely there is nothing wrong with the > convertor. More likely just the fron O2 sensor needs replaced. > > Can't legally purchase a used convertor so that option is out. just > replace the front sensor. Yikes! Almost swallowed my tongue there. Must light candles to the bad O2 sensor gods! Jon > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Is a used converter a good idea? Any idea what a parts and labor for a new > converter should run? Do you have the exact code? I would Google it and see exactly what it means. Codes should not 'point' to something, they are usually specific enough to tell you exactly what is wrong. Also, check your warranty book, emissions equipment warranties are generally longer than the basic warranty. You may be covered. Dan D '99 Impreza 2.5 RS (son's) Central NJ USA >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > warranty book, emissions equipment warranties are generally longer > than the basic warranty. You may be covered. Dan, Waiting to hear back from my daughter now. She left me a message that she dropped it off at the mechanic but didn't have an update as to what they found yet. Thanks for the response. Jon >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > '99 Impreza 2.5 RS (son's) > Central NJ USA Most Warranties run for 8/80K whichever comes 1st Signature" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" -- Albert Einstein >>> Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> Central NJ USA > Most Warranties run for 8/80K whichever comes 1st I was hoping there was an extended warranty on the emission system. I've had 2 Hondas that had their emission systems warranty extended due to early production problems (for all owners that year). My local dealer says it isn't. Hey, It was worth a shot. Jon Replace the front O2 sensor first. More then likely that is the problem, not the convertor. -- Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru/ More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html |
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