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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / January 2008Out with the old.. in with the new...
Hi All: Well, 2007 *had* been good to me... my steering problem has definitely disappeared. But............. Tonight as I drove off to the video store with my son, the check engine light came on, then blinked off, then on, then off... about 7 times. By the time I managed to turn off my son's hideous music on the stereo, the light was off and stayed off, so I can't say if there was some unusual noise (i.e. from the car, anyway! <g>) I've seen a lot of my check engine light over the years, but I haven't seen that sort of blinking on and off behaviour.. any thoughts? I have noticed, very occasionally, a kind of deep low pitched rattle separate from the engine but seemingly in synch with the revolutions of the engine. I put it down to some rattling heat shield or something, but could it be an engine death rattle? Legacy 2002, 150,000 kilometers (96,933 miles) Repair/maintenance costs 2007 ($4700.00) Repair/maintenance costs 2008 ($35.00 and counting....)  SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ > Hi All: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Repair/maintenance costs 2007 ($4700.00) > Repair/maintenance costs 2008 ($35.00 and counting....) When are u supposed to have a timing belt change in this car? If it was done at 60K - did they change the tensioner I wonder. Can you get the code read at an Autozone or other facility?(should be stored, even with the light off) Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) Hi Carl: Recently I had the head gaskets done (people may be sick of me talking about it!), and since they had the engine apart anyway, I had them install a new timing belt at the same time. Are you thinking the timing belt might be related to the CEL or the noise, or both? Thanks! Fred >> Hi All: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Carl > Hi Carl: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >>Carl Just wondering if the tenisioner could be 'weak' such that the belt is flopping around, rubbing on the inside of the covers and maybe creating a 'disagreement' between the crank and cam angle sensors. Probably not the ONLY scenario that would create occasional CEL AND a noise. Plus, the 2 may be unrelated. Just the first thing that came to mind. having the actual code may be very helpful. dunno Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) I appreciate the suggestion! I will be watching closely for a recurranceof the CEL.. We don't have AutoZone where I live, and the dealership is over an hour away, so I can't easily get the code(s). If it happens again, I will, of course, be taking it back to the dealership. I wonder if the car is just missing its friends at its second home in the dealer's garage... ;) SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ > Just wondering if the tenisioner could be 'weak' such that the belt is > flopping around, rubbing on the inside of the covers and maybe creating a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Carl Dear Carl, et al... Problem recurred, and CEL remained on. I thought, from the sound this morning that I'd lost the engine! Rattling, dieseling horrible sound... Got it into the dealership. Code P0303 Cylinder # 3. Apparently there was some corrosion on the fuel injector(?) The service manager started by telling me that there was a problem with a fuel injector and that they cost $600.00. I practiced my new "calm breathing at Subaru dealership" ritual. After dropping that bombshell, and *only* after *that* did he say that they just had to clean it up and it solved the problem. $107.00. (Exxxhhhaaaaallleeee...) He suggested a new battery, but I figured it wasn't essential right now, and I didn't think I needed a Subaru brand battery. Which brings up a new question... which I will put into a new thread... Legacy 2002, 150,000 kilometers (96,933 miles) Repair/maintenance costs 2007 ($4700.00) Repair/maintenance costs 2008 ($142.35 and counting....) SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ > Just wondering if the tenisioner could be 'weak' such that the belt is > flopping around, rubbing on the inside of the covers and maybe creating a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Carl > Got it into the dealership. Code P0303 Cylinder # 3. Apparently there was > some corrosion on the fuel injector(?) The service manager started by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > just had to clean it up and it solved the problem. $107.00. > (Exxxhhhaaaaallleeee...) Ouch! I think fuel injectors for my ancient Bronco cost about $100 each and half of them are very easy to replace yourself. The other half require a bit more work to get at. If someone quoted me $600 for a fuel injector (even including labor) I don't think they'd ever see me again. SignatureRay I wonder if someone who knows might comment on the cost of a fuel injector replacement? Obviously, I seem to have avoided it now.. but I'd like to know just in case! (With my luck!) SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ >> Got it into the dealership. Code P0303 Cylinder # 3. Apparently there was >> some corrosion on the fuel injector(?) The service manager started by [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > bit more work to get at. If someone quoted me $600 for a fuel injector > (even including labor) I don't think they'd ever see me again. Just fyi... chatted with a mechanic this morning who confirmed that a fuel injector replacement was, "ballpark", $600.00... SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ >I wonder if someone who knows might comment on the cost of a fuel injector >replacement? Obviously, I seem to have avoided it now.. but I'd like to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> bit more work to get at. If someone quoted me $600 for a fuel injector >> (even including labor) I don't think they'd ever see me again. Time for a new car dude!!!! That $4700 would be a nice down payment on a new car!!! > Dear Carl, et al... > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - <Chuckle> Well, maybe... but then I'd have payments! Time for a new car dude!!!! That $4700 would be a nice down payment on a new car!!! > <Chuckle> Well, maybe... but then I'd have payments! > > Time for a new car dude!!!! That $4700 would be a nice down payment > on a new car!!! Yeah, $600 is what - 2 months payments? And it isn't even broken! It's only a new car when its at the dealership, its used when you drive off in it. carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) But you'd have warranty and a car that wont nickeland dime you and inconvenience you by needing repair all the time. I like no payments too but if a car always needs fixin I'd rather makepayments > <Chuckle> Well, maybe... but then I'd have payments! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Time for a new car dude!!!! That $4700 would be a nice down payment > on a new car!!! Hi: Well, there are differing points of view: I think buying a car and keeping it going as long as possible (i.e. driving it into the ground) is cheaper in the long run - assuming, of course that you get a reasonably reliable car (why I bought a Subaru <sigh>), and maintain it properly. I *do* expect to have to pay maintenance and upkeep costs to keep it on the road after the warranty is over. I *expect* that these costs would be well below the costs of a new car payment. (Assuming that a loan is required...). Sadly, in my case my maintenance costs have been very high over the last year or so. My car *should* be good for several years of fairly reliable service, imho, and I am hoping that things improve for me and justify my purchase of a Subaru... The other option is buying a new car, but I can't imagine that that would make sense financially - given the depreciation. Leasing might make sense, on the other hand, but mileage limitations make that not a good option for me. SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ But you'd have warranty and a car that wont nickeland dime you and inconvenience you by needing repair all the time. I like no payments too but if a car always needs fixin I'd rather makepayments On Jan 21, 8:50 pm, "Fred Boer" <fredbo...@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote: > <Chuckle> Well, maybe... but then I'd have payments! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Time for a new car dude!!!! That $4700 would be a nice down payment > on a new car!!! |
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