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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / February 2008(Subaru) Now, this is an interesting page...
I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on replacing the headgaskets (BOTH have BHGs...) and ran across this at AutoZone: http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1c/5c/40/0900823d801c5c40/repai rInfoPages.htm It shows them yanking the heads on both engines without removing the engine from the car. Now, I don't know what models these are, but this sure makes the job look pretty easy! Also, on the 2.2 motor, notice that the head bolts are not covered by the valve covers! This is real interesting. However, i think for ease of removing the heads, it would make more sense to remove the covers to gain some additional room... Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people charging $1000-1200?!?!?! "Hachiroku ... >I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and > the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people > charging $1000-1200?!?!?! Because they can? What really prompted me to hit the reply button was the BHG. What is a BHG? (My mind is tell ing me big honker G-striing, but somehow I don't believe that this is so...) Tomes > "Hachiroku ... >>I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > believe that this is so...) > Tomes Du-u-u-u-u-de! Big Hearted Girls! er, Blown Head Gaskets... "Hachiroku ... >> "Hachiroku ... >>>I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > er, Blown Head Gaskets... LOL yeah. I figured it out when I read the other threads. I have my reader set so the most recent posts are at the top. I think I will try flipping that around so I see first what I would have missed <grin>. Tomes >"Hachiroku ... >>I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >that this is so...) >Tomes B lown H ead G asket. >I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and > the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > engine from the car. Now, I don't know what models these are, but this > sure makes the job look pretty easy! My neighbor did gaskets on a 1.8 Subie wagon with the motor in. He took his time and spent a week to work on it but it really didn't look all that bad. ~Brian > Also, on the 2.2 motor, notice that the head bolts are not covered by the > valve covers! This is real interesting. However, i think for ease of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people > charging $1000-1200?!?!?! > I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and > the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people > charging $1000-1200?!?!?! Right at the top of the page: "On some models, engine compartment room is limited, so it may be necessary to remove the engine to service the cylinder heads." I have an 02 Legacy, and there's no way those heads are coming off without the motor coming out (or a sawzall to the fenders.) Ray All head gaskets at work are done in-car; several tricks make it easier. BUT they are done from the bottom. IF I were to do a head gasket at home (or a clutch) I would pull the engine. That is not so hard as you would think. It also lets you access the back and reseal the entire engine, something thats good to do on subarus.  SignatureSteve ASE Master Tech L1 Diag Currently residing at a Subaru Shop 4.5 years doing tires and alighnments >I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and > the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people > charging $1000-1200?!?!?! > All head gaskets at work are done in-car; several tricks make it easier. BUT > they are done from the bottom. IF I were to do a head gasket at home (or a > clutch) I would pull the engine. That is not so hard as you would think. It > also lets you access the back and reseal the entire engine, something thats > good to do on subarus. Thanks, Steve! Yeah...the reason I was quoted $1200 was because of the list the tech gave me for things that should be done with the headgasket. Um, however...one car is an '89 in OK shape, and the other is a '97 with 335,000 on the chassis! I'm not expecting these cars to do much over 50,000 miles more each. > All head gaskets at work are done in-car; several tricks make it easier. BUT > they are done from the bottom. IF I were to do a head gasket at home (or a > clutch) I would pull the engine. That is not so hard as you would think. It > also lets you access the back and reseal the entire engine, something thats > good to do on subarus. When my wife's Beretta borked the trans, we pulled the engine/trans as a combo. Didn't seem that much harder, and allowed me to do the timing chain, oil pan gaskets, etc... as kind of a PM type of work. If my Legacy ever needs head gaskets, I'd pull the engine as well so I could do the same stuff - it's way easier and cleaner on the stand than in the car. Ray Don't you mean "When..."? ;) SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ > If my Legacy ever needs head gaskets, I'd pull the engine as well so I > could do the same stuff - it's way easier and cleaner on the stand than in > the car. > > Ray > Don't you mean "When..."? ;) Seems to be that way. Two Subarus w approx 130,000 miles, both need head gaskets... Hmmm.... ..and in my case (as I never tire of whining about!<g>) 2 BHG on the *same* car with only 160,000 km! SignatureFred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ >> Don't you mean "When..."? ;) > > Seems to be that way. Two Subarus w approx 130,000 miles, both need head > gaskets... > > Hmmm.... > ..and in my case (as I never tire of whining about!<g>) 2 BHG on the > *same* car with only 160,000 km! That's 100,000 miles...hmmm... > I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and > the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > engine from the car. Now, I don't know what models these are, but this > sure makes the job look pretty easy! Maybe you can find even more help here, from the factory manuals: http://pdftown.com/Pdf-eBook/Subaru.html >> I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and >> the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://pdftown.com/Pdf-eBook/Subaru.html Thanks, but it don't work... :( >> I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and >> the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://pdftown.com/Pdf-eBook/Subaru.html Hmmmm....it didn't work in Windows, but it is downloading just fine in Linux...Hmmmm.... >> Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ wrote: >>> I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Hmmmm....it didn't work in Windows, but it is downloading just fine in > Linux...Hmmmm.... Was able to download & open but it requires a password to use does anyone know or has anyone else run in to this ( the pdftown.com Link) Glenn K Signature" Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" -- Albert Einstein Try password "pdftown.com" or read the post at pdftown site. Blair >>> Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ wrote: >>>> I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > know or has anyone else run in to this ( the pdftown.com Link) > Glenn K >>>> I have two Subys, an '89 Coupe and a '97 Wagon. The '89 has the 1800 >>>> and the '97 has the 2.2 SOHC engine. I was looking for information on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Was able to download & open but it requires a password to use does anyone > know or has anyone else run in to this ( the pdftown.com Link) Glenn K interesting...no problem in Linux. But, what I dl'd was the EA82 service manual... On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:12:56 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote: >Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people >charging $1000-1200?!?!?! um..because the vehicle has to still run after they're finished with it? >>Looks like this might be easier than I expected...so why are people >>charging $1000-1200?!?!?! >> > um..because the vehicle has to still run after they're finished with it? Yeah, that would be a GOOD thing! |
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