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Al - 18 Jun 2008 22:26 GMT
I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.

I have sent the following to the Verizon. I hope more will do the same.

Why are you deleting perfectly good newsgroups from your service? I
routinely access the following"
alt.autos.jaguar
alt.autos.subaru
alt.engineering.electrical
alt.ham-radio
alt.os.linux.ubunt
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
If my access is denied, I will encourage my Senate and House delegations
to enact legistation that will restore my legitimate access to these
groups. I think the last thing you would want is more legislation on your
networks.

Al
Steve Jones - 19 Jun 2008 02:12 GMT
> I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
> eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Al

It's all about the children:

http://newteevee.com/2008/06/11/isps-shut-down-usenet-to-save-children-an
d-cash/

Time Warner is shutting down -all- usenet access for me this month.

Steve
S - 19 Jun 2008 15:30 GMT
Hi Guys!

>> I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
>> eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.

>Time Warner is shutting down -all- usenet access for me this month.

Check out Supernews:

<www.supernews.com>

Fix you right up, they will.

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
Catherine Jefferson - 19 Jun 2008 18:24 GMT
> Check out Supernews:
>
> <www.supernews.com>
>
> Fix you right up, they will.

Supernews is now Giganews, which isn't half as good.  I use them, but am
moving in a couple of weeks to news.individual.net.  It should offer
better service at a similar price.

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S - 19 Jun 2008 18:47 GMT
Hi Catherine!

>Supernews is now Giganews, which isn't half as good.  I use them, but am
>moving in a couple of weeks to news.individual.net.  It should offer
>better service at a similar price.

??? Supernews is still Supernews as far as I can tell; Giganews is
something else entirely. A spin-off company maybe?

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
AlFire - 20 Jun 2008 03:51 GMT
> Supernews is now Giganews, which isn't half as good.  I use them, but am
> moving in a couple of weeks to news.individual.net.  It should offer
> better service at a similar price.

news.individual.net works well, fast, etc. the only downside is that
retention of messages is quite low - like a few week into past. at list
on the groups I care of.
AlFire - 19 Jun 2008 15:03 GMT
> I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
> eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.
>
> I have sent the following to the Verizon. I hope more will do the same.

I switched to individual.net after discovered that Comcast block usenet
access from outside (e.g. when traveling with the laptop). I still got
access to alt.*.
Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y) - 20 Jun 2008 01:36 GMT
>I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
>eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>groups. I think the last thing you would want is more legislation on your
>networks.

Do you actually think someone cares about Usenet?

Back when I was a sys-admin at a major ISP in the late 90's, they were
already calling it a non-investment service.  

Elected officials will totally ignore you, as they can also care less
about Usenet.
Bob Noble - 20 Jun 2008 02:14 GMT
You could try this ISP. I believe they cover most of the U.S. now.
They still believe in this stuff.

Http://www.sonic.net

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Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble

> Do you actually think someone cares about Usenet?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Elected officials will totally ignore you, as they can also care less
> about Usenet.
Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y) - 20 Jun 2008 23:02 GMT
>You could try this ISP. I believe they cover most of the U.S. now.
>They still believe in this stuff.
>
>Http://www.sonic.net

When all the majors are gone, where will the traffic come from?
Bob Noble - 21 Jun 2008 06:21 GMT
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Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble

>
>>You could try this ISP. I believe they cover most of the U.S. now.
>>They still believe in this stuff.
>>
>>Http://www.sonic.net

> When all the majors are gone, where will the traffic come from?

Maybe back to where it used to come from.
My understanding is the way Usenet is set up, it can't really be killed.
You'll just have to find other ways to get on it.
Paul Knudsen - 28 Jun 2008 02:57 GMT
>I have sent the following to Verizon. I hope more do the same. They are
>eliminating access to all but 8 supergroups.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>routinely access the following"
>alt.autos.jaguar

They cut ALL the alt. groups I think.
 
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