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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / July 2008

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brand new to group and have two problems

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Eddie - 14 Jul 2008 03:27 GMT
Hello all.  Just joined the group and would like some help.  I bought
a 2000 Forester a year or so ago.  Recently,  I had to replace the cat
dealer did R&R.
First problem, check engine light just came on again and friend's
computer module says it is evaporation problem.
One suspect is gas cap.  It is not original part.  It is an
after-market cap with lock.  Could my problem be fixed by replacing
with Subaru cap?
Second, the clock doesn't work.  I checked fuse in engine compartment
and it is OK.  Any suggestions?  I doubt if I'll fix it knowing dealer
would charge at least $150.  I can buy a very nice watch for that
price.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Eddie in San Jose, Ca.
DK - 14 Jul 2008 05:36 GMT
>Hello all.  Just joined the group and would like some help.  I bought
>a 2000 Forester a year or so ago.  Recently,  I had to replace the cat
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>after-market cap with lock.  Could my problem be fixed by replacing
>with Subaru cap?

No idea here. Anb OEM  cap can't be too expensive to test...

>Second, the clock doesn't work.  I checked fuse in engine compartment
>and it is OK.  Any suggestions?  I doubt if I'll fix it knowing dealer
>would charge at least $150.  

Clock. Easy to fix! Here is my post a year ago:

I used regular dinner knife (non-steak) to pry it off. It gets out
pretty easily. It seems that 99% of the time it is one resistor
that gets undone. Resolder it and it will be working again.
Very easy to do. I can't solder to save my life and the job
I've done was ugly as hell yet it still worked.

Here arer the instructions:
http://www.rowejason.com/2007/02/subaru-wrx-2002-digital-clock-fix.htm

DK
Eddie - 14 Jul 2008 04:14 GMT
>Clock. Easy to fix! Here is my post a year ago:
>
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>
>DK
Thanks DK.  However, my clock is on a Forester.  The clock is located
just above the rear view mirror.
You fixed a clock on a WRX.
Eddie
DK - 14 Jul 2008 14:36 GMT
>>Clock. Easy to fix! Here is my post a year ago:
>>
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>just above the rear view mirror.
>You fixed a clock on a WRX.

Actually, I have Forester and I fixed the clock on it according to the
instructions for the WRX. I think the clocks are identical.
nobody > - 14 Jul 2008 17:40 GMT
>> Clock. Easy to fix! Here is my post a year ago:
>>
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> You fixed a clock on a WRX.
> Eddie

I seem to recall that the same clock (and same fix) works on Foresters.
You'll probably have to figure out how to remove the clock on your own,
but it's probably a similar "pull it out of the plastic tabs" with a
butter knife type of deal.
GreenieLeBrun - 16 Jul 2008 00:18 GMT
>> Clock. Easy to fix! Here is my post a year ago:
>>
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> You fixed a clock on a WRX.
> Eddie

Forester clock repair
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6386
Todd H. - 14 Jul 2008 05:42 GMT
> Hello all.  Just joined the group and would like some help.  I bought
> a 2000 Forester a year or so ago.  Recently,  I had to replace the cat
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> after-market cap with lock.  Could my problem be fixed by replacing
> with Subaru cap?

Possibly.  Likely.  The evap sensor senses the vapor pressure above
the fuel in teh fuel tank.  If the pressure is too low, the code is
tripped.  Either you didn't tighten the cap until it clicks (most
common cause), the gas cap doesn't seal, there's a pinhole leak
somewhere in the fuel tank, or the sensor is faulty.  I'd definitely
start with a real sube cap and the problem is quite likely to go away.

--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA
Eddie - 14 Jul 2008 04:21 GMT
>> Hello all.  Just joined the group and would like some help.  I bought
>> a 2000 Forester a year or so ago.  Recently,  I had to replace the cat
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>somewhere in the fuel tank, or the sensor is faulty.  I'd definitely
>start with a real sube cap and the problem is quite likely to go away.
Thanks Todd.  I have made sure the cap is tight.  Maybe it's not
sealing well.  Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a
non-locking Sub cap.
I don't think the sensor is faulty.  I had the dealer also check.  The
first check showed the cat was toast (both testers).  After the cat
was installed the light came back on about two weeks later.  Check
showed cat ok.  Evap problem behind cat.  Could be muffler, gas tank
or gas cap.  I'll start with the cap first.
Thanks again
Eddie
Todd H. - 14 Jul 2008 06:48 GMT
>>> Hello all.  Just joined the group and would like some help.  I bought
>>> a 2000 Forester a year or so ago.  Recently,  I had to replace the cat
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> showed cat ok.  Evap problem behind cat.  Could be muffler, gas tank
> or gas cap.  I'll start with the cap first.

Evap to the best of my knowledge has nothing to do with the cat.

Though the sensors are all related to emissions compliance,  the
efficiency of the cat in your exhaust path has little to do with the
evaporative pressure sensor that makes sure gasoline fumes are being
contained inside the fuel tank, so I'd take any correlation between
the cat replacement and this evap code as a red herring/coincidence.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA
turkey - 14 Jul 2008 13:21 GMT
Seems to me on my Impreza that just taking the cap off after a run
would give me a clue if it were the cap or a rust hole problem.  Isn't
it something like opening a can of pop?  If I get that slurping sound
I would think I could eliminate those two.
Certainly on a warm day that happens.
Eddie - 14 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT
>> Thanks Todd.  I have made sure the cap is tight.  Maybe it's not
>> sealing well.  Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a
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>
>Best Regards,
Hi Todd.  The very first check found cat *and* evap problem.  Got the
cat R&R and that problem is now gone, but evap problem continues.
Since I now drive a Honda Trail 90 bike to/from work the evap problem
fix can wait.  I get 100 mpg with the 90.  I drive 1.4 mi ea. way to
work.  So it may be a while before I change the gas cap.  Or for sure
when next smog test is required, which is in one year from this
September.
hmm, now I'm wondering how it passed smog last month?
Eddie
Dano58 - 15 Jul 2008 20:05 GMT
> >> Thanks Todd.  I have made sure the cap is tight.  Maybe it's not
> >> sealing well.  Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> hmm, now I'm wondering how it passed smog last month?
> Eddie

What's the exact code? That will indicate the most likely fix. There
are several 'evap' system codes.

Dan D
'99 Impreza 2.5 RS
Central NJ USA
 
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