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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / September 2008Brake Mileage for 2003 Forester
I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and finally another 22K, when I now need new front brakes. I live in a foothill area of Calif., and drive up and down at least one 5-600' hill each day. I talked to a mechanic today and he said that brake life is usually quite good at the start.  SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> > I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without > getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and > finally another 22K, when I now need new front brakes. I live in a > foothill area of Calif., and drive up and down at least one 5-600' hill > each day. I talked to a mechanic today and he said that brake life is > usually quite good at the start. Hi, With manual shift equipped car, brake can last longer. >> I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without >> getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hi, > With manual shift equipped car, brake can last longer. I have an automatic. It's good to see there's someone here besides myself. When I rejoined today, I saw only one other post. Months ago there were hundreds. SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> If you had the original OEM pads replaced with OEM pads then ignore my suggestion. If the original pads were replaced with non OEM pads then that may be the problem. > If you had the original OEM pads replaced with OEM pads then ignore my > suggestion. If the original pads were replaced with non OEM pads then > that may be the problem. The new brakes were not put on by Subaru; however, when I talked about this with them, they made no claims about having superior brakes than a third party. SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> >> If you had the original OEM pads replaced with OEM pads then ignore my >> suggestion. If the original pads were replaced with non OEM pads then >> that may be the problem. > The new brakes were not put on by Subaru; however, when I talked about this > with them, they made no claims about having superior brakes than a third > party. If you got 42K miles with Brand A and have twice gotten only 22K miles with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEW lamps for OLD for email. >On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:02:03 -0400, W. eWatson wrote > >If you got 42K miles with Brand A and have twice gotten only 22K miles >with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. I get 60 k miles from my front pad, I only use OEM. Signaturemred >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:02:03 -0400, W. eWatson wrote >> >> If you got 42K miles with Brand A and have twice gotten only 22K miles >> with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. > > I get 60 k miles from my front pad, I only use OEM. Do you drive up and down steep hills and have you consistently gotten 60K? SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> >>> with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. >> >> I get 60 k miles from my front pad, I only use OEM. >Do you drive up and down steep hills and have you consistently gotten 60K? Mid Atlantic States, rolling hills. 70% HY, 30 % city. I don't drive it aggressively on a consistent basis. Its reg engine, not turbo. 5 sp manual. Signaturemred >>> If you had the original OEM pads replaced with OEM pads then ignore my >>> suggestion. If the original pads were replaced with non OEM pads then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you got 42K miles with Brand A and have twice gotten only 22K miles > with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. The thought has certainly occurred to me. SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> >>>> If you had the original OEM pads replaced with OEM pads then ignore my >>>> suggestion. If the original pads were replaced with non OEM pads then [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > The thought has certainly occurred to me. Something else to consider: When the pads are replaced, is your mechanic also lubricating the sliders and checking that they slide freely? If your calipers use the full-length rubber boots that are on the older Imprezas, rust can develop between the boot and the caliper, constricting the boot and not allowing the slider to move freely with very little pressure. The result is that the pads, especially the outer pad, are always in contact with the rotor, not enough to notice any drag or pulling to one side, but enough to cause faster wear. An easy check would be to drive the car for a mile or so and then check the temp of both front wheels (not the calipers!). Both sides should be ambient temp or just a little warmer, and equally warm. If the wheels are hot to the touch, the calipers are dragging and they should be checked out further. A similar problem can occur at higher mileage when the caliper piston boot starts to leak, or rust builds up between the boot lip and the caliper piston seal. When changing pads, the piston shouldn't require an excessive amount of force to be pressed back into the caliper, especially if the bleeder screw is open. Bob > > If you got 42K miles with Brand A and have twice gotten only 22K miles > > with Brand B, you might consider returning to Brand A. > > > The thought has certainly occurred to me. Hi, Seems like a no brainer to me... Regardless of driving style and its attendant effects on overall brake life, I've had far better life w/ OEM pads than any replacement brands, covering several car mfrs. Rick > I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without > getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and > finally another 22K, when I now need new front brakes. I live in a > foothill area of Calif., and drive up and down at least one 5-600' > hill each day. I talked to a mechanic today and he said that brake > life is usually quite good at the start. Brakes have been a pain in the a.s on my 01 Outback. I have followed a similar pattern as you have, but in IL with no freakin hills. The next ones will be OEM Subaru pads without a doubt. -- Todd H. 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 Chicago, Illinois USA Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 with 29K on it, and the brakes are still fine, but wondering if ceramics could be used when they need replacement. I have a 2000 half ton Chevy Silverado with four wheel disc brakes. I have driven it 151,000 miles, with no replacement of the original ceramic pads! My mechanic thinks it will go to 200,000 before needing brakes. >> I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without >> getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 > Chicago, Illinois USA > Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 with 29K on > it, and the brakes are still fine, but wondering if ceramics could be used > when they need replacement. I have a 2000 half ton Chevy Silverado with four Hi, I haven't used ceramics on anything yet. An acquaintance retired recently, after working for a Chevy dealership as a brake mechanic for years. He said the ceramics were going to "put us out of business" as they lasted so long--so it sounds like your Silverado experience is "normal." He also said if you're gonna make the switch to ceramics, spring for new rotors. Mixing new pads w/ old rotors doesn't work that well w/ ceramics according to him. Rick >> Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 with 29K on >> it, and the brakes are still fine, but wondering if ceramics could be used [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > spring for new rotors. Mixing new pads w/ old rotors doesn't work that > well w/ ceramics according to him. Are OEM Subaru pads ceramic? Does anyone know for sure? I have this recollection that they might be for these model years, but that recollection is shaky at best. -- Todd H. 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 Chicago, Illinois USA >>>Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 with 29K on >>>it, and the brakes are still fine, but wondering if ceramics could be used [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 > Chicago, Illinois USA They 'appear' to be semi-metallic and from Akebono. I'd bet a search or asking in the brake forum at www.nasioc.com would tell us for certain. I must say, the Wagner pads I put on my wife's Outback seem a little inferior to the OEM. And I still have a lot of material left on my WRX pads even with 3 track events. I may go with OEM to replace them and wish I had on the wife's car. If I did more track/performance driving, I might get EBC yellows for my WRX. I have read though, that getting rotors from the same company as the pads is a good idea as they are probably designed to work best together. So ceramic pads on OEM rotors 'may' accelerate rotor wear. I doubt it matters much on a daily driver though. the 'white papers/tecnical information at http://www.stoptech.com/ is worth looking through for decent info. Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >>>> Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 >>>> with 29K on [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Carl What are the prices of ceramic, and what's the comparison of OEM brakes versus "typical" others? SignatureWayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> >>>>> Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 >>>>> with 29K on [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > What are the prices of ceramic, and what's the comparison of OEM brakes > versus "typical" others? I'd be surprised if there were extensive unbiased, expert testing along those lines. There is a little info here; http://www.subarureview.com/brake.php?PHPSESSID=fbb7a49d827dae3fb9067907760d5206 but the anecdotal. You could probably read for days in the brake threads of 3-4 Forums and still not have a good idea. As for prices? I only briefly looked at that and don't recall. Some of those reviews mention prices. Carl Signatureto reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) Thanks Rick. Keep Studebkering... >> Has anyone tried ceramic brake pads on a Forester? I have a 2006 with 29K >> on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Rick My brakes have been a royal pain on my '01 Outback. I have frequently had to replace both pads and discs, and I have only used OEM. Brakes are my only complaint, but they are a big one. Otherwise, the car is great. >> I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without >> getting new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 > Chicago, Illinois USA > I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without getting > new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and finally another [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/> Hey W, I had a similar concern with my 2006 Subaru Forrester and I subscribed to ALLDATAdiy.com and it has been very useful. I am handy and like to do things myself and this subscription gives me diagnosis, repair, TBSs, recalls and labor times. I hope you find it useful - it's pretty cheap considering the information comes directly from the manufacturer. Check it out - I copied the link below for you. http://traffic.alldatadiy.com/cgi-bin/redir?pd_link=i1-a44690-o4010-c66365 Andy Deil > Hey W, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andy Deil If you want to appear casual about it, posting the same link 4 times in one day sorta raises red flags. You're a shill for alldata collecting revenue on your specific affiliate link until proven otherwise. Please quit spamming the newsgroup with this faux helpfulness. Andy apparently is an affliate of this program: http://affiliate.alldatadiy.com/ -- Todd H. 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 Chicago, Illinois USA Andy <ADdiy55@gmail.com> Aug 26, 2008 at 02:12 PM wrote: >> I bought my Forester in Sept. 2002, and apparently drove 42K without gett= ing >> new brakes. I then drove 22K before getting new breaks, and finally anoth= er >> 22K, when I now need new front brakes. I live in a foothill area of Calif= ., >> and drive up and down at least one 5-600' hill each day. I talked to a >> mechanic today and he said that brake life is usually quite good a the s= tart. >> -- >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada Ci= ty, CA) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std.= time) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Obz Site: =A039=B0 15' 7" N, 121=B0 2' 32"= W, 2700 feet >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Web Page: <www.speckledwithsta= rs.net/> >Hey W, >I had a similar concern with my 2006 Subaru Forrester and I >subscribed to ALLDATAdiy.com and it has been very useful. I am handy >and like to do things myself and this subscription gives me diagnosis, >repair, TBSs, recalls and labor times. I hope you find it useful - >it's pretty cheap considering the information comes directly from the >manufacturer. >Check it out - I copied the link below for you. >http://traffic.alldatadiy.com/cgi-bin/redir?pd_link=3Di1-a44690-o4010-c6636= 5 >Andy Deil Yeah, right. Word for word what you posted about another problem o another vehicle last week. What good is this to the OP? He *already* wears out his own brakepads How's that for DIY - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm > Andy <ADdiy55@gmail.com> Aug 26, 2008 at 02:12 PM > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > What good is this to the OP? He *already* wears out his own brakepads. > How's that for DIY? Andy Deil was exposed as little more than a spammer. What's good about it from Andy Deil's perspective is that Andy doesn't care. He's an Alldata affiliate looking solely to make commissions off people buying something from teh link he's spammed us with. Since I called him out, we haven't seen him round these parts again, which is good. -- Todd H. 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4 Chicago, Illinois USA > Andy Deil was exposed as little more than a spammer. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Since I called him out, we haven't seen him round these parts again, > which is good. I KF'ed him right away, but I might have let him off if he made just one post and was upfront about the affiliate deal. Alldata IY isn't a bad source of info, but you need to know up front that you pay for it. |
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