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1989 Subaru GL 1.8l won't stay lit

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Aug 2008 17:29 GMT
Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over the summer,
but yesterday I went to move it to prep it for winter, and it wouldn't
start. I opened the hood and checked the usual suspects, but all looked
well.

I pumped the gas and it kicked right over. I had to hold the throttle
with one foot, and work the brake with the other to get it moving. After
a couple minutes of holding it at idle, it started to idle on it's own,
albeit a very low stumbling idle.

There was also a smell like something burning, although there was no
smoke from anywhere.

I did the usual check for critters in the airbox, etc. Spiders in the
TBI, perhaps? (If you have a gas grill, you probably have heard the
damage spiders can do...kaBOOM!!!)

I'll put some fresh gas in it today or tomorrow and try again and see if
it smoothes out. It had a complete tune up in January; new plugs, wires,
cap and rotor (I think. I have so many cars I can't remember which ones
have cpas and rotors and which don't...if it has it, they were
changed...), air filter, oil, etc. It was running well when I parked it
and ran at idle without stumbling about 8 weeks ago or so.
somick - 28 Aug 2008 18:40 GMT
> Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over the summer,
> but yesterday I went to move it to prep it for winter, and it wouldn't
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> changed...), air filter, oil, etc. It was running well when I parked it
> and ran at idle without stumbling about 8 weeks ago or so.

It looks like the only suspect left is the fuel filter.  Was it ever
changed?

Sam
hippo - 28 Aug 2008 21:57 GMT

>On Aug 27, 9:29 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@ae86.GTS> wrote:
>> Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over th
summer,
>> but yesterday I went to move it to prep it for winter, and it wouldn't
>> start. I opened the hood and checked the usual suspects, but al
looked
>> well.
>>
>> I pumped the gas and it kicked right over. I had to hold the throttle
>> with one foot, and work the brake with the other to get it moving
After
>> a couple minutes of holding it at idle, it started to idle on it'
own,
>> albeit a very low stumbling idle.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> I'll put some fresh gas in it today or tomorrow and try again and se
if
>> it smoothes out. It had a complete tune up in January; new plugs
wires,
>> cap and rotor (I think. I have so many cars I can't remember whic
ones
>> have cpas and rotors and which don't...if it has it, they were
>> changed...), air filter, oil, etc. It was running well when I parke
it
>> and ran at idle without stumbling about 8 weeks ago or so.

>It looks like the only suspect left is the fuel filter.  Was it ever
>changed?

>Sam

Filter sounds like a good call; could be clogged. BTW, do you use E10 o
straight petrol where you are and how long since you last filled it? An
fuel will deteriorate over time, but ethanol blends tend to separate
Cheer

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 17:54 GMT
>>On Aug 27, 9:29 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@ae86.GTS> wrote:
>>> Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over the
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> fuel will deteriorate over time, but ethanol blends tend to separate.
> Cheers

Yeah, we do have E10 here, and the last time it was filled was March.
I'll check the filter and get some new gas. It started and ran yesterday,
but still had a stumbling idle.
hippo - 31 Aug 2008 23:10 GMT
=?iso-2022-kr?q?Hachiroku_=0E+O+A+m+/=0F?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> Aug 30, 200
at 04:54 PM wrote:

<snip>
> Filter sounds like a good call; could be clogged. BTW, do you use E1
or
> straight petrol where you are and how long since you last filled it
Any
> fuel will deteriorate over time, but ethanol blends tend to separate.
> Cheers

Yeah, we do have E10 here, and the last time it was filled was March.
I'll check the filter and get some new gas. It started and ran yesterday

but still had a stumbling idle.

All sounds good with the clean though. Now the ethanol's done it's magi
cleaning all the crap out of the tank and lines, there *shouldn't* be an
more, so if it's all gone then hopefully you're down to refreshing th
fuel and keeping an eye on things. You could try driving over a few goo
bumps to stir the fuel up a bit! Cheer

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 17:54 GMT
>> Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over the
>> summer, but yesterday I went to move it to prep it for winter, and it
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Sam

I started it yesterday and it started right up, idled up and then fell
back again to a low stumbling idle.

Yeah, looking around I suspected the fuel filter. Last time I looked they
were $54, but a quick check says $24. I'll take the old one out and 'see'
what it looks like...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 31 Aug 2008 03:16 GMT
>>> Been sitting since April, I have started it a few times over the
>>> summer, but yesterday I went to move it to prep it for winter, and it
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> were $54, but a quick check says $24. I'll take the old one out and 'see'
> what it looks like...

Cheap-a.s repair #327: Clean the fuel filter. $35 was too much for a $350
car :O  $4.99 for a can of carb cleaner was just right.

When I took the filter off, gas ran out of it clean for a while, then the
mud started coming. I let the mud out, then sprayed it with some carb
cleaner. After a while the mud stopped and it started running freely out
of the other end of the filter. Slapped it back together and now running
much smoother at idle.

For some reason, I keep forgetting about fuel filters and the troubles
they can cause!
 
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