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Turn Signal Lamp Replacement?
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John O - 23 Sep 2008 22:27 GMT For a while now I've had a left turn signal acting erratic. Mostly a fast signal, sometimes slow with a short 'on' cycle, kinda seems to track with the idle speed, but not always. Right signal works fine.
Looking at the left front lamp in my driveway the bright light is good, but the dimmer one never lights. Is that the problem....a bad lamp?
I tried to get it out to test the bulb and check the socket, but can't figure it out without tearing apart the front end. This is a '99 OBW. The top screw is easy, but then what?? Are there online instrux somewhere? Or should I be looking at some other thing here?
-John O
John O - 24 Sep 2008 23:59 GMT Nobody knows how to replace a left front turn signal??? I tried searching the web, no luck.
> For a while now I've had a left turn signal acting erratic. Mostly a fast > signal, sometimes slow with a short 'on' cycle, kinda seems to track with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -John O p_reader - 25 Sep 2008 03:30 GMT > Nobody knows how to replace a left front turn signal??? I tried searching > the web, no luck. Sorry about the wait, John.
>> For a while now I've had a left turn signal acting erratic. Mostly a fast >> signal, sometimes slow with a short 'on' cycle, kinda seems to track with >> the idle speed, but not always. Right signal works fine. >> >> Looking at the left front lamp in my driveway the bright light is good, >> but the dimmer one never lights. Is that the problem....a bad lamp? I think that your idea of a bad lamp is probably on target.
>> I tried to get it out to test the bulb and check the socket, but can't >> figure it out without tearing apart the front end. This is a '99 OBW. The >> top screw is easy, but then what?? Are there online instrux somewhere? Or >> should I be looking at some other thing here? >> >> -John O I can tell you how it works on a '99 Forester: - Open and prop up the hood.
- Use a Philips driver to remove the screw you'll find just past the top edge of the headlight, where the headlight and the left turn signal housing meet.
- Gently pull the left turn signal housing straight forward (along the car's direction of travel). It should release easily.
- Twist the bayonet style lamp mount to release it from the turn signal housing. Now you have access to the turn signal bulb and socket to test them or replace the bulb.
- Take care when reassembling the turn signal onto the car that the ball-shaped pin on the housing mates with the socket you'll find low and close to the headlight.
I hope this helps. Much easier than tearing apart the front end. :-)
- Stefan
Rick Courtright - 25 Sep 2008 03:53 GMT > Nobody knows how to replace a left front turn signal??? I tried searching > the web, no luck. Hi,
Did you search your owner's manual?
I know how to replace the left front turn signal on all the cars I own. Instructions have been in the owner's manual of every one. But I don't have your car...
Don't have the manual? Some are available from the mfrs online. Or you can order a hard copy from your dealer. You can also get repair manuals from Chilton's, Haynes and some mfrs. Even if the instructions another poster gave you do the trick, you should have "the book" in one form or another.
There are times "old school" is good. ;)
Rick
John O - 25 Sep 2008 14:35 GMT >> Nobody knows how to replace a left front turn signal??? I tried searching >> the web, no luck. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Rick Read the manual? What are you, some kind of communist or something? :-) LOL, the instrux are there, you're right.
<hangs head in shame>
I suppose the trick is to 'encourage' that lens assembly a bit more firmly. Gently isn't the way, but I suppose that plastic is a little stiff after nine years.
Thanks Rick and Stephan, I appreciate your responses.
-John O
John O - 25 Sep 2008 17:49 GMT FYI....the problem is a connection, bulb is fine. I think it's the detachable connector to the bulb mount.
The lens assembly popped out when I pried on it. Sometimes it's nice having an old car...I don't worry about the finish so much. :-)
-John O
>>> Nobody knows how to replace a left front turn signal??? I tried >>> searching [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > -John O Rick Courtright - 25 Sep 2008 18:26 GMT > FYI....the problem is a connection, bulb is fine. I think it's the > detachable connector to the bulb mount. Hi,
Here's one that's NOT in most of the books: if the connector's not mechanically damaged (broken wire, cracked housing, that kinda stuff), a "usual suspect" is corrosion, so many old time mechanics I've known kept a jar of Vaseline on the shop bench and smeared a light coating on the metal surfaces of the bulb and the contacts in the bulb holder when they replaced bulbs. This helps slow corrosion, and often makes removal of an old bulb easier. (If your contacts are corroded, and you've got the older style holders where you can actually get to the contacts, be sure to scrape 'em clean w/ a knifeblade or bit of sandpaper before putting the bulb back in. Auto parts stores have spray cleaners for electrical apps that help w/ the newer "push in" style where you can't physically get to the contacts very well.)
Because a handful of diabolical engineers have been doing their best to make today's bulbs hard to get to, a "stuck" one's sometimes a real challenge to remove (esp. the all glass style that just pushes into the connector instead of using the traditional metal bayonet mount), and the auto parts stores sometimes stock a "special" bulb grease to help solve this problem. It's probably rebadged dielectric grease, which sometimes seems to work better than Vaseline on the "push in" bulbs (probably cuz it "stays put" better in hi-temp locations?)
Plain ol' Vaseline is also as good on battery terminals as any of the "special" lotions and potions I've tried over the years, so you might as well make a party of it now that it's Fall and you're disassembling the car anyway, and check your battery and clean/protect its connections.
Another of those "old school" things, eh? :)
Rick
John O - 25 Sep 2008 19:46 GMT >> FYI....the problem is a connection, bulb is fine. I think it's the >> detachable connector to the bulb mount. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Rick I started my career as an electronics tech, and ended up servicing Heathkits at their factory...you wouldn't believe the crap people do to their equipment. :-) And the tricks we used to fix some of that junk.
The bulb and socket were remarkably clean for the age of the car. No dust, no dirt, nothing. The lead bulb contacts had just the barest hint of corrosion that came off with my finger. The socket contacts were nicely copper-colored and nearly pristine, but I bent them upwards a bit just because that's what you do with those.
I held the socket still and wiggled the wires and nothing changed, but removing and replacing the connector made it work for now. The connector is exposed to the inside of the fender, and I suspect there was some corrosion there. When I get home I'll shoot the contacts with a bit of contact cleaner, and plug/unplug a few times just to work out any stuff.
Now that I know how to get at the danged thing I can troubleshoot it more effectively. That goofy blinker was driving me nuts!
-John O
Rick Courtright - 26 Sep 2008 09:00 GMT > I started my career as an electronics tech, and ended up servicing Heathkits > at their factory...you wouldn't believe the crap people do to their > equipment. Hi,
Wow... can't remember when the last time I heard the name Heathkit! I was probably about six or seven when I learned to do some basic soldering on one my father was building. I think it was on an amplifier for a "hi-fi" system. Learned all about cold solder joints courtesy of the Heathkit multi-meter he'd built a month earlier in preparation for this project. Sometimes I'm not sure my soldering has improved in the half century plus since that adventure!
After college I went to work for a company that was involved w/ several things, one of them being a small chain of electronics stores. My boss believed in cross-training everyone in the organization, so I did a short stint in one of them. Watching the techs... you bet I'd believe what people do!
Good luck w/ the blinker. And speaking of things people will do, it might be a good idea to check ALL the bulbs in the system just to ensure the proper bulbs have been installed...
Rick
John O - 26 Sep 2008 11:44 GMT >> I started my career as an electronics tech, and ended up servicing >> Heathkits [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rick I've had cars blow through lamps every six months, but this one still has all of its factory-installed lamps, except for one headlight.
BTW, I still work for the remains of that big Heathkit company. No kits. heathkit.com
-John O
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