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Car Forum / Subaru Cars / October 2008Timing Belt, 1989 1.8L GL
Got my GL on the road today...you know, after the hard time I had with insurance, RMV, etc, I knew I should have left it home... I think it's a broken timing belt. I had them checked last year and the Subaru Specialist said they looked new (4,000 miles ago...) So, first of all, with my Toyotas to check for a broken timing belt I remove the distributor cap and crank the engine. No rotor movement, no timing belt. Does this work on the 1.8 L engine? Also, looking at instructions here: http://www.autozone.com/shopping/repairGuide.htm?pageId=0900c15280066dc4 1. What can I use for a flywheel stopper? 2. It says to remove the camshaft pulleys. Is this necessary, or can the belts be slipped on over them? What else should I be aware of before I begin this routine? On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:37:09 -0400, against all advice, something compelled Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>, to say: > So, first of all, with my Toyotas to check for a broken timing belt I > remove the distributor cap and crank the engine. No rotor movement, no > timing belt. Does this work on the 1.8 L engine? Probably. Try it. If the rotor doesn't move, you know you have a serious problem, and yeah, it's probably the timing belt. If it does move, you know to test further. Can you remove the valve cover? If the valves move, the belt is fine. Is there an inspection port?  Signature"The ABS system can not overcome the laws of physics." Audi Owner's Manual > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:37:09 -0400, against all advice, something > compelled Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>, to say: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Can you remove the valve cover? If the valves move, the belt is > fine. Easier to remove the belt covers, I think... > Is there an inspection port? Hey, Steve: The only inspection port I've found on the car is for the flywheel. There was one thing I should have added...timing is lost. All the directions I see are for intact belts. I haven't found anything on how to align the cams if the timing is lost! On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:13:02 -0400, against all advice, something compelled Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>, to say: > There was one thing I should have added...timing is lost. > All the directions I see are for intact belts. I haven't found anything on > how to align the cams if the timing is lost! You'll have to burn that bridge when you get there. Signature"The ABS system can not overcome the laws of physics." Audi Owner's Manual This engine has two timing belts. When the left one breaks, it's the on that drives the camshaft that also powers the distributor, the engine wil not fire and the rotor will not turn. Engine will run on two cylinders i the other belt breaks, which is rare. You don't need that flywheel stoppe thingee. A large screwdriver works just as well. Hope you know about th 3 marks used to time the belts. Also you have not lost time. This onl happens if you pull the distributor. If you line up the timing marks o the camshaft sprokets and use the correct timing marks on the flywheel yo will have no problems. Don't forget to rotate the engine one ful revolution after installing the first belt and before installing th second belt - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm Forgot to mention no need to remove the camshaft sprockets - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm > This engine has two timing belts. When the left one breaks, it's the one > that drives the camshaft that also powers the distributor, the engine will [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > revolution after installing the first belt and before installing the > second belt. Ooooook...Three marks used to time the belts... I'm guessing these are the ones near the flywheel that you use the...er, center one to set cyl 1 @ TDC...? I see what you mean....distributor timing is not lost, and from what I have seen (in the service manual) there is one mark on the cam pulley that aligns with a mark on the belt housing that sets the cam timing. Rotate the engine ONE FULL revolution, eh? OK. Thanks! The ignition timing marks on the flywheel have nothing to do with timin the belts. Find the 3 111 lines on the flywheel and use the center on along with the pointer cast into the bellhousing. The camshaft sprocket each have a dot and the covers behind the sprockets have a notch. Trus me that the engine HAS to be rotated 360 degrees after the first belt i installed. If you decide to ignore this I'll be on the watch for you next posting: "Can anyone tell be why this engine is running on only 2 cylinders after installed new belts? - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm > The ignition timing marks on the flywheel have nothing to do with timing > the belts. Find the 3 111 lines on the flywheel and use the center one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > installed. If you decide to ignore this I'll be on the watch for your > next posting: LOL! No, I can take a hint! Someone else told me that, too, last year after I bought the car. So, that I remembered. Timing belt copy - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm file:///Users/johnlong/Desktop/Timing%20Belt%20Procedure%20EA82%20-%20Ultimate%20Subaru%20Message%20Board.html%20%20EA8 - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.subaru More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm > I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy. I don't know how giganews works. When Verizon had Usenet access, you could not post a picture in a non-binary group, it wouldn't allow it. It may have to do with the filesize, you might need to break it up and encode it to post it, or you could send it to hachiroku_ae88@yahoo.com ;) > I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy. Oh, and I appreciate the effort, BTW! |
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