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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / November 2004

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01 Camry Rear Brake "Adjustment"

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Jetman5467 - 27 Nov 2004 14:54 GMT
Earlier this year I had posted to this group inquiring about adjusting
my rear brakes as it seems the pedal has to travel too far in order to
bring the car to a complete stop.  At the time the vehicle had 36,000
miles so I was pretty confident the front discs and rear drums didn't
need replacing.  The vehicle now has 42,500 miles and the brake issue
is bothering me more than ever.  I just had the 3,000 mile interval
oil change and the dealer is once again offering to "adjust" the rear
brakes for $40.  Am I to believe he is just going to use the handbrake
for that amount?  I don't think so as they have been around for 25
years and have an excellent reputation throughout the area; i.e., not
the typical dealer.  I understand the rear brakes self adjust and
began using the handbrake almost daily since hearing of the self
adjusting feature but this has not cured the problem at all.  I have
also tried the braking in reverse trick with similar results.  I am
wondering if I should pull the rear tires and try manually adjusting
the star wheel and see if this helps.  Any thoughts?  As a side note
the brakes have never been serviced and the brake fluid is at the
proper level.

Thanks so much.

-Mark
Wolfgang - 27 Nov 2004 18:59 GMT
I'd check your front pads - they can eaily be gone at 40k.  The fronts do a
good 75+% of the braking so while the rear shoes (if drum) can last 100-150k
miles the fronts can go at 30-40k miles easily.  Far cheaper to replace them
before its metal on metal. Pull the hand brake up 50 or so times to adjust.
Yes you can adjust them manually if desired since suspect the handbrake only
slightly turns the adjuster.  The dealer would manually adjust while he has
on the lift --- a quick $40 for him.

> Earlier this year I had posted to this group inquiring about adjusting
> my rear brakes as it seems the pedal has to travel too far in order to
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>
> -Mark
m Ransley - 28 Nov 2004 00:35 GMT
Rear brakes adjust backing up .  Bad Master Cilinder or low pads.
ROBMURR - 28 Nov 2004 22:59 GMT
bleed the brakes also.
Allan - 29 Nov 2004 20:57 GMT
> > Earlier this year I had posted to this group inquiring about adjusting
> > my rear brakes as it seems the pedal has to travel too far in order to
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> >
> > -Mark

Same problem with '99 camry with rear drums - the self adjusters don't do
the job even though they work fine when tested by pulling the handbrake on
slightly with the wheels off. Don't know why they don't adjust properly by
applying the handbrake when the wheels are on, but dealers obviously
recognize the problem by including a "rear brake adjustment" (they
manually adjust the star wheels)  with each 24K service and have done so
since the very first 24K Service. I usually just do this myself now each
year and even so, the rear linings are going to last at least 150
Kiolometeres. Don't know what they changed - my old '87 Camry had
basically the same rear brakes and they self adjusted just fine for 12
years (and each set of shoes lasted 100k so they were doing a desireable
share of the braking). I wonder if they have changed the proportioning
valve setting (and WHY?)

Allan
skewe - 30 Nov 2004 16:05 GMT
I went to a Toyota dealer and they told me that my rear brakes needs
adjustment. What he did was pull the hand brake and since it was going
up so high, he told me that they are misaligned and wanted to charge
me $60 to do that.

Also, it seems that when I step on the brake pedal, it would depress
quite a distance.

Any thoughts besides forking out $60 to fix it?

> > > Earlier this year I had posted to this group inquiring about adjusting
> > > my rear brakes as it seems the pedal has to travel too far in order to
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> Allan
ROBMURR - 30 Nov 2004 16:54 GMT
There was at least 1 tsb on the proportioning valve to make the
rear brakes work harder. Its on
Alldata I am sure.
Allan - 30 Nov 2004 20:13 GMT
> There was at least 1 tsb on the proportioning valve to make the
> rear brakes work harder. Its on
> Alldata I am sure.

I saw these TSB's too but my dealership (in Canada) denies all knowledge
of (or any applicability of) any TSB's on "foreign " databases to cars
sold in Canada. I realize SOME  might only apply to US made models only,
since the Canadian models are shipped from Japan but the dealerships
attitude is that nothing on ALLDATA applies to Canada!! Strange though
that they added service adjustments required every two years on supposedly
self adjusting brakes. Overall, Toyota is great compared to other car
manufacturers, but they are not above responding to some problems only
when forced to by the much stronger consumer protection regulations in the
US and just omitting some TSB's in markets with wimpy or non- existant
government consumer protection attitudes (as in Canada).

Allan
 
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