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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / December 2004

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OEM rotots+brake pads or aftermarket ones

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pintoo - 20 Dec 2004 02:27 GMT
2001 toyota camry 4 cyl, 43,000 miles.
Rotors are warped severely. (vibrations at any speed above 40mph while
braking and a pulsating brake pedal even while coming to a gradual
stop).

Should I stick  with oem parts from the dealer or get rotors(Brembo @
$57.00 each) and ceramic pads(tirerack has a note that toyota
recommends ceramic pad material) ($61.00 - $72.00 per axle set) from
tirerack.

Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
Appreciate any insights about either option.
Art - 20 Dec 2004 04:40 GMT
Can't they be turned?  Usually they can be ground once before replacment.
They may not really be warped.  The latest theory is that the vibrations are
caused by embedded pad material that can be removed by machining them.

> 2001 toyota camry 4 cyl, 43,000 miles.
> Rotors are warped severely. (vibrations at any speed above 40mph while
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
> Appreciate any insights about either option.
Philip - 20 Dec 2004 05:29 GMT
"vibrations are caused by embedded pad material that can be removed by
machining the rotors?"

Does it not strike you that in the course of removing "embedded pad
material" that the rotors are made true again?   LOL
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> Can't they be turned?  Usually they can be ground once before
> replacment. They may not really be warped.  The latest theory is
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>> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
>> Appreciate any insights about either option.
Art - 22 Dec 2004 03:36 GMT
Yes Philip and that is why I said it was the latest theory.  LOL

> "vibrations are caused by embedded pad material that can be removed by
> machining the rotors?"
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>>> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
>>> Appreciate any insights about either option.
Philip - 22 Dec 2004 05:34 GMT
Yeah, "theories" such as that one confirm that some people can't see the
forest for the trees.

> Yes Philip and that is why I said it was the latest theory.  LOL
>
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>>>> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
>>>> Appreciate any insights about either option.
specialkkl - 20 Dec 2004 07:57 GMT
I replaced mine with raybestos top of the line ceramic and rotors and am
very happy. Rotors are made in Canada. You can get them at rockauto.com
for half price from auto store. Take a look. $500 is ridiculous
MisterSkippy - 22 Dec 2004 18:47 GMT
I'm not familiar with Brembo. I've had no problems with any rotors not
made in China or India. QC there seems to be an oxymoron. Best pads I
ever used are the Raybestos Quiet Stop which I believe are ceramic.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB

>2001 toyota camry 4 cyl, 43,000 miles.
>Rotors are warped severely. (vibrations at any speed above 40mph while
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
>Appreciate any insights about either option.

"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
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his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
HachiRoku - 23 Dec 2004 01:23 GMT
> 2001 toyota camry 4 cyl, 43,000 miles.
> Rotors are warped severely. (vibrations at any speed above 40mph while
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
> Appreciate any insights about either option.

Damn Man! Brembos for $57!!!!!

I'd do it. Before I learned how to do brakes (8 years ago) I was paying
$57 for AFTERMARKET rotors!!!!
Rog - 23 Dec 2004 20:14 GMT
Get Brembo rotors which are better than OEM and buy OEM brake pads.  Get a
local shop to put them on.

> 2001 toyota camry 4 cyl, 43,000 miles.
> Rotors are warped severely. (vibrations at any speed above 40mph while
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Dealer quoted $490.00 (parts+labor) for the job.
> Appreciate any insights about either option.
m Ransley - 23 Dec 2004 23:24 GMT
500$ a  bit high, get bids if rotors measure thick enough  cutting them
will be cheapest
pintoo - 27 Dec 2004 19:23 GMT
> 500$ a  bit high, get bids if rotors measure thick enough  cutting them
> will be cheapest

Called dealer.. rotors are $ 99/- each and a pad set for $43/- (set of
4)....so assuming @ $ 250/- for parts(new shims grease etc)... would it
cost $250/- for labor... the same dealer quoted $500/- for the job...
One other question, the car has ABS. If I get the brake job done at a
local shop, should the mechanic be asked to open the bleeder valve to
let brake fluid out while retracting the piston (using c-clamp/pad
separator device etc) -> to protect the ABS system from
contaminants/particles in the piston?

Or is it safe to do this without  opening the bleeder valve?
Regards,
Shirish.
 
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