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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / July 2007

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0_Qed - 29 Nov 2005 22:51 GMT
I stopped by my local Toy dealer,
asked  about ;
. jumping a bat
. swopping out a bat
. 'red' Toy antifreeze

-Jump-

In my case, I used a lo_rate charger ,
same 'effect' as a jumper battery.

. ign key to LOCK
. charger switched off, or discon from 110vac
. att grnd cble to bat grnd(neg)/blk
. att pos cble  to bat pos/red
. turn chgr on for reqd time ( rtfm the chgr manual )

-Swop-

. ingn key to LOCK
. discon the gnd(neg) cbl(blk)
, discon the pos cbl(red)
. remove rplace bat units
. att pos bat cbl
. att gnd(neg) bat cbl

Per the Toy dealership ...
radio/clock settings will be lost,
ECU running parameters =wont= be lost .

-Antifreeze-

Mixing Toy 'red' antifreeze with 'green' simply
produces a muddy 'brown' coolant color ...
no more, or less, effects.
Toy antifreeze is simply colored 'red' [.]

No 'magic' in the red, nor the green.

Ed
Travis Jordan - 29 Nov 2005 22:57 GMT
> Mixing Toy 'red' antifreeze with 'green' simply
> produces a muddy 'brown' coolant color ...
> no more, or less, effects.
> Toy antifreeze is simply colored 'red' [.]
>
> No 'magic' in the red, nor the green.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/cm120450.htm
Rob - 30 Nov 2005 21:40 GMT
I think what you tried to tell us was that you put in a new battery and
jumpered it to save your radio settings and computer settings..

Maybe you did not ask the right questions about Toyota Coolant
let me guess you asked the service advisor about the coolant?
Probably the person less likely to have a clue. At my dealers these
guys have no clue how to look up a TSB even...
The Toyo Red is a long life coolant that will provide proper
lubrication to your water pump and not break down like the cheap
green crap.  Read the info from the post below.
davidj92 - 01 Dec 2005 22:53 GMT
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> -Antifreeze-
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ed

The Toy red antifreeze is a long-life coolant. When mixed with the green and
the muddy brown color stuff appears you have lost the long-life ability of
your cooling system. So, if you ever change to only red you still won't have
a long-life system. For no more difference there is in the price between Toy
red and a GOOD quality green it's a good investment and peace of mind to go
with Toy.
Just my .02 worth,
davidj92
amerikim - 02 Dec 2005 05:48 GMT
Don't mix the coolant. Google it. Toy Red is low silicate as called for
in their service manual. Mix the wrong stuff in can cause gelling or
formation of some pretty solid stuff.

Why gamble?

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amerikim

Father Guido - 03 Dec 2005 04:26 GMT
~
~Don't mix the coolant. Google it. Toy Red is low silicate as called
for
~in their service manual. Mix the wrong stuff in can cause gelling or
~formation of some pretty solid stuff.
~
~Why gamble?

Well, it's -25°C (-13°F) here now, so I'm not about to change my
coolant. The dealer only drains the fluid, no flush, so whatever was
in the car now (I bought it used 2 years ago) will still be half there
after a darin. If it's not Red, what do you think the dealer will do,
add Red, or get some Green from the local autozone?
Travis Jordan - 03 Dec 2005 11:49 GMT
> If it's not Red, what do you think the dealer will do,
> add Red, or get some Green from the local autozone?

A Toyota dealer?  They'll put Toyota coolant in it.
Wankatoa - 28 Jul 2007 06:00 GMT
"Travis Jordan" <no.one@no.net> scribblednews:CDfkf.248516$dZ.74374
@fe02.news.easynews.com:

>> If it's not Red, what do you think the dealer will do,
>> add Red, or get some Green from the local autozone?
>
> A Toyota dealer?  They'll put Toyota coolant in it.

Yah, that's that "special" coolent.  It's diferent from those "other"
coolents.

Dealers also sell special air filters, oil filters, oil, and also put their
special air into your special tires that are formulated especially to fit
your Toyo.

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Mark A - 28 Jul 2007 17:53 GMT
> Yah, that's that "special" coolent.  It's diferent from those "other"
> coolents.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> special air into your special tires that are formulated especially to fit
> your Toyo.

The Toyota red coolant is different than most other "red" colored coolants.
It is not necessarily different than any other coolant, just not the same as
other red coolants. Unfortunately, the industry started the trend of
identifying the type of coolant based on the color, but it does not hold
true for Toyota brand red coolant.

The Toyota red coolant lacks the silicates and other chemicals used to
prolong the life of the coolant, because these chemicals can cause excessive
wear in the water pump and other cooling system parts. So the net is that
you can pay for more frequent coolant changes with Toyota Red, or buy a
long-lasting coolant and replace your water pump more often.

BTW, the Toyota Red claims to be long-life, but that is BS. You should
change it according to the manufacturer specs, which I believe is 2 years or
30K miles.
0_Qed - 03 Dec 2005 19:35 GMT
...snip...

> If it's not Red, what do you think the dealer will do,
> add Red, or get some Green from the local autozone?

Without =specific= RO instruction,
the
dealer probably just adds Toy 'red.

You "could" specify a dealer total system flush, 'till =clear=,
and use Toy 'red' as the re_fill.

DIY involves the proper dsposal of the old coolant, and the 'flush'.

Ed.
Sharx35 - 03 Dec 2005 20:48 GMT
> ...snip...
>
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>
> Ed.

Down ye old sewer!!!
 
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