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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / January 2007

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Check Engine = Catalytic Converter...

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Big Kahuna - 23 Jan 2007 22:45 GMT
Howdy.

This is just a head's up.  I have a 2002, 4cyl, AT, made in Japan.  40k,
full synthetic, and regular maintenance.  Absolutely no problems with
her, but I've had that *@*&$# "check engine" light on quite a few times.  
I had the MAF and O2 sensors replaced (the O2 twice!).  And last trip I
took the damn light came on again.

I know it's just check engine (take it to the dealer asap), but that
damn light is very disconcerting when you are on a trip, out of town, on
lonely roads, etc.  It just sits there are makes you wonder every time
you look at the dash....

Anyway, I had a dealer out of state a few years ago tell me the code was
catalytic converter.  But then the light went out on its own.  It came
on again last trip (and went off again right after I got back).  I took
it into the dealer, exasperated, and the code (I guess it stays in
memory?) was catalytic converter.  Luckily, the service writer found a
TSB on it...so the $500+ job was no charge even though she's now out of
warranty.  Phew!  

So check those TSBs if you are getting check engine lights.  I did a
cursory look on various sites and didn't find the one for catalytic
converter.  

Great car!  Now if the damn sensors that are supposed to tell you if
it's a great car would stop coming on....
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Jan 2007 23:44 GMT
> Howdy.
>
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> the MAF and O2 sensors replaced (the O2 twice!).  And last trip I took the
> damn light came on again.

Why did you replace these? Didn't you have someone read the code?

ALWAYS check the code when the ECU throws one! My '95 Tercel kept throwing
a P401, and I threw some O2 sensors at it, but I got them at cost.

Turned out it was a clogged vacuum line! I fixed it in 10 minutes and $0.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 24 Jan 2007 01:43 GMT
Yeah, Toyota seems to be having problems with these Denso heated
sensors since 1997 (found TSBs all the way back). That led me to
conclude that Denso sensors are junk and damage converters. It
obviously cost Toyota quite a bit. Good thing you got all those sensors
and the catalytic converter for free!

I use Bosch oxygen planar type sensors when available. Best in class.
Personally I'd stay away from the kindergarten stuff from Denso.

http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/

> Howdy.
>
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> Great car!  Now if the damn sensors that are supposed to tell you if
> it's a great car would stop coming on....
JerseyMike - 24 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
> Howdy.
>
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> Great car!  Now if the damn sensors that are supposed to tell you if
> it's a great car would stop coming on....

i have the same model, but haven't had the ck. eng. light come on but i do
get nasty eggs smells from yime to time.   can you post the link for the
TSB's.

mike
Hachiroku ハチロク - 24 Jan 2007 21:55 GMT
>> Howdy.
>>
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>
> mike

The Egg smell is usually am indication of high-sulfur gasoline. Try
changing brands for a minute.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 25 Jan 2007 01:46 GMT
Except when all the other makes of cars using the same gas station
don't seem to have the problem.

On Jan 24, 1:55 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
> > mikeThe Egg smell is usually am indication of high-sulfur gasoline. Try
> changing brands for a minute.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 25 Jan 2007 04:58 GMT
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:46:22 -0800, johngdole wrote:

> Except when all the other makes of cars using the same gas station don't
> seem to have the problem.

I was running the same gas in my cars for years, and when I bought a
Nissan 240SX, using the same gas, Fart City. My other car still ran just
fine on it, but I had to change brands for the Nissan.

> On Jan 24, 1:55 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
>> > mikeThe Egg smell is usually am indication of high-sulfur gasoline.
>> > Try
>> changing brands for a minute.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 25 Jan 2007 01:45 GMT
It's really an emissions problem but too bad they are stone walling
you. Initially, if you only have the rotten egg smell in all post 2002
Camrys, Toyota won't do anything. See TSB EGG 003-03, I mean EG003-03.

However, later (at least for trucks) Toyota suddenly realized the old
catalytic converter was at fault and a NEW CATALYTIC CONVERTER was made
avaible so whatever gas you use won't cause the rotten egg smell. See
TSB EG004-06.

So if the dealer won't replace the catalytic converter for free then
call Toyota's 800 line. That's why people say Toyota quality is going
down the rotten pipe.
 
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