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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / April 2007

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removing valve cover - what size nut?

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mrdarrett@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2007 16:52 GMT
What size are the nuts securing the valve cover to the 5S-FE engine?

They look larger than any socket I've got in my toolbox...

Thanks,

Michael
Daniel - 18 Apr 2007 18:30 GMT
On Apr 18, 8:52 am, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> What size are the nuts securing the valve cover to the 5S-FE engine?
==
30mm
That's also the size you need for the axle nut, but for that you'll
probably want one suitable for use with an air wrench, or at minimum a
six point socket.
Since Sears only had 12 pt. 30mm socket, I've got two (but no I don't
lend tools).  :?)
mrdarrett@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2007 18:48 GMT
> On Apr 18, 8:52 am, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:> What size are the nuts securing the valve cover to the 5S-FE engine?
>
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> Since Sears only had 12 pt. 30mm socket, I've got two (but no I don't
> lend tools).  :?)

Oh thanks.

Looks like this can work:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683

Looks like AutoZone also lends tools...

Michael
Daniel - 19 Apr 2007 17:39 GMT
> Looks like this can work:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683
==
Those are fine for the valve cover, but exercise caution in using the
inexpensive Chinese sourced impact sockets elsewhere.
I know you favor inexpensive tools, but I did find a special purpose
axle socket at Kragen Auto Parts for about the price of your whole
set. Axle nut torque is 238 ft. lbs., but could take a lot more if
stuck. That 30mm Kragen axle nut socket for around $17 is very solid.
Actually I have a Harbor Freight impact socket set just like your
link, and it is fine for light duty. When I tried removing the bolts
to the control arm - in fairness they are extraordinarily tight and
threaded into the frame such that penetrating oil will not reach -
anyway, after some time of impact gun hammering without success,
stress fractures appeared as lines along the length of the socket at
the end of each "flat" on the socket interior, so I stopped and
returned the part for an exchange before it completely fractured and
broke open, possibly with dangerous consequences. How did Clint
Eastwood put it? You've got to know your (socket's) limitations.
mrdarrett@gmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 18:05 GMT
> mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Looks like this can work:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683
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> broke open, possibly with dangerous consequences. How did Clint
> Eastwood put it? You've got to know your (socket's) limitations.

I certainly wouldn't use an impact socket to remove / install my valve
cover nuts... I'd just use my torque wrench.

Thanks for the info on the stress fractures.  I just got a 12V
electric impact wrench from H. Freight (was on sale for $19.99).  I'll
be lots more careful with that...

Michael
johngdole@hotmail.com - 21 Apr 2007 01:57 GMT
I would recommend that after you torqued down the cover, wait 30
minutes and retorque again.

Never need to use an impact wrench. The Harbor Freight $9.99 2ft 1/2"
breaker bar works wonders.

On Apr 19, 10:05 am, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:

> > mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Looks like this can work:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683
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>
> Michael
videokid400@hotmail.com - 21 Apr 2007 12:51 GMT
On Apr 21, 10:57 am, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I would recommend that after you torqued down the cover, wait 30
> minutes and retorque again.
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> - Show quoted text -

AT LAST........3/4 drive is the ONLY way to deal with driveline nuts/
bolts.
An impact gun for $19.99(im guessing USD)  and 12 volt .....mmmm good
for the kids to play with.
Impact guns are a great tool if they are used correctly and are of
good quality........used incorectly or el cheapo an absolute DANGER to
all involved.
TOURQUE wrench on a valve cover??????mmmmm  ok then
Jason James - 19 Apr 2007 19:59 GMT
> > Looks like this can work:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683
> ==
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> broke open, possibly with dangerous consequences. How did Clint
> Eastwood put it? You've got to know your (socket's) limitations.

I'm a little reluctant to use hammer-guns unless said nut loosens pretty
quickly. Often after using such a tool for a few goes, the nut starts to get
damaged. Agree the socket has to be a quality type which is almost an
interference fit. One trick was to use a fractional size less (1/32" less),
so the socket had zero slop on the nut or had to be tapped on.  In the past,
I've found using a quality socket-set with a sliding drive-bar with a piece
of stout pipe works well, especially suspension/transmission nuts. The
sliding drive bar is about 9" long with the drive able to slide along the
piece of steel rod. This places the point of leverage as close to the nut as
possible, minimising any tendency for the socket to torque off the nut.
Agree however, that a 3/4' drive socket is a better way for heavy torqued
nuts such as stub-axle nuts tho.

Jason
 
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