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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / December 2007

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heater not as hot as it once was

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ROBERT RENNINGER - 08 Dec 2007 15:26 GMT
my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota has
its own type of coolant.  does anyone know a good brand to use?

thank you
Nobody Important - 08 Dec 2007 15:38 GMT
> my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
> could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota has
> its own type of coolant.  does anyone know a good brand to use?
>
> thank you

The plastic coolant overflow tank under the hood has "max" and "min"
graduations.  You can find this tank by following the hose from the
radiator to the tank - the fluid in the tank is likely reddish, and it's
the biggest tank under the hood. Compare the coolant level in the tank
with the graduations.  Note that there may be "hot" and "cold"
graduations and you need to pay attention to that.  If the level is
okay, with the car COLD (i.e. has been turned off for several hours),
take the radiator cap off and check to see that it's full.  If the car
passes those two tests, you likely have no problem, barring a blockage
in the plumbing that leads into the cabin.

What sometimes happens is that the baffle or "air valve" that directs
cool air into the car sticks open, making the cabin temperature drop.
It's something to investigate if the coolant level is okay.
timbirr@mailcity.com - 08 Dec 2007 16:44 GMT
> my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
> could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota has
> its own type of coolant.  does anyone know a good brand to use?
>
> thank you

Yes, if you need coolant, you have to use a hybrid.  Toyota's coolant
is specially blended with water from Mt. Fuji and then blessed by Sumo
wrestlers, which is why it hits $20 a gallon or more.  You can
probably buy aftermarket for cheaper, but considering the investment
in the vehicle, I winced and paid up for the Toyota junk.
mack - 08 Dec 2007 18:22 GMT
>> my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
>> could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> probably buy aftermarket for cheaper, but considering the investment
> in the vehicle, I winced and paid up for the Toyota junk.

With tongue NOT in cheek, I'd say pay a little (not a lot) more and get the
Toyota coolant, but check out the cooling system first, either yourself if
you have the knowledge to know what you're looking at, or with the help of a
radiator shop.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 09 Dec 2007 03:20 GMT
Rice wine was also added and the bottles massaged while they aged in
Kobe.   ;)

The new Toyota pinko has 50% water already added. Because the organic
acid doesn't like tap water much. Expensive way to buy distilled water
I'd say. With the 02 I think you need the pinko.
But if you have an older car and can find the 2-year red coolant then
use it.

The pinko coolant was a copy of the GM 5-year Dexcool organic acid
coolant but lacks the 2EHA acid, so the system corroded a lot more.
But it's a 2/5 year trade off.

No, thermostat and coolant I would still use Toyota. The Prestone All-
Makes coolant has the 2EHA acid, and if you have cheap plastics in
your Toyota's cooling system it will get plasticized. Since you do
have cheap plastics in your Toyota, don't use it.

On Dec 8, 8:44 am, timb...@mailcity.com wrote:
> Yes, if you need coolant, you have to use a hybrid.  Toyota's coolant
> is specially blended with water from Mt. Fuji and then blessed by Sumo
> wrestlers, which is why it hits $20 a gallon or more.  You can
> probably buy aftermarket for cheaper, but considering the investment
> in the vehicle, I winced and paid up for the Toyota junk.
MarvinShos - 13 Dec 2007 17:21 GMT
Has anyone tried the Prestone yellow/green supposedly universal coolant? I
have been using it for the last 6 years in my '97 camry with no problems.

>Rice wine was also added and the bottles massaged while they aged in
>Kobe.   ;)
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> probably buy aftermarket for cheaper, but considering the investment
>> in the vehicle, I winced and paid up for the Toyota junk.

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timbirr@mailcity.com - 13 Dec 2007 17:55 GMT
> Has anyone tried the Prestone yellow/green supposedly universal coolant? I
> have been using it for the last 6 years in my '97 camry with no problems.

This has been a long-running theme on the Toyota Nation Web site, with
a variety of opinions, ranging from YEAH Toy to Yeah Aftermarket.

Personally I go with this opinion from poster TRD VVTi:
Toyota's red coolant actually lubricates bearings and seals better and
lasts longer. Adding green coolant negates any of the red coolants
benefits and makes it perform like the inferior green coolant.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 14 Dec 2007 02:43 GMT
Yeah I know, like oil and oil filters everyone's got an opinion.

However, both the Toy Red and the traditional Prestone Green are 2-
year coolants. The green has silicates that's a very effective
corrosion fighter. Toyota Red/Pinko don't have silicates because the
pumps use inexpensive rubber o-rings instead of the carbide seals in
American and European cars.

On Dec 13, 9:55 am, timb...@mailcity.com wrote:
> Personally I go with this opinion from poster TRD VVTi:
> Toyota's red coolant actually lubricates bearings and seals better and
> lasts longer. Adding green coolant negates any of the red coolants
> benefits and makes it perform like the inferior green coolant.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 14 Dec 2007 02:37 GMT
I've always thought about using the Prestone All-Makes coolant. The
only thing stopping me is the cheap plastics Toyota uses in its
cooling systems. At least by the way Toyota tries to avoid the 2EHA
acid, which is a fast-acting corrosion inhibitor used in GM's Dexcool.
Toy put something else in place of 2EHA, and the new Pinko coolant (a
Dexcool copy) is worse at fighting corrosion than the good 'ol Red. I
was trying to find that lab test report about "significant [metal]
weight loss" with the pinko.

Whenever I look at the Prestone All-Makes, the "2EHA" jumps out, so I
put it back. Maybe it works fine as Prestone said. And you confirmed
it. Maybe I 'll get to use it one day.

BTW, Prestone coolant is made by Honeywell, who is also the OEM
coolant maker for Toyota, Honda, and who knows what other OEM
coolants.

> Has anyone tried the Prestone yellow/green supposedly universal coolant? I
> have been using it for the last 6 years in my '97 camry with no problems.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 09 Dec 2007 03:20 GMT
Possible, but you'll overheat first. Suspect an stuck-open thermostat
that lets out too much coolant to the radiator.

> my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
> could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota has
> its own type of coolant.  does anyone know a good brand to use?
>
> thank you
ransley - 09 Dec 2007 14:00 GMT
On Dec 8, 9:20 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Possible, but you'll overheat first. Suspect an stuck-open thermostat
> that lets out too much coolant to the radiator.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

A bad thermostat, or the valve that flows heat to the heater, a
blocked heater core or to much antifreeze will reduce interior heat
johngdole@hotmail.com - 11 Dec 2007 01:50 GMT
Also, do you have automated climate control system? It could be the
control circuit that's bad, for example.

> my car heater on my 2002 camery dosen't seem to be as hot as it once was.
> could this be from my coolant level being too low?  i understand toyota has
> its own type of coolant.  does anyone know a good brand to use?
>
> thank you
 
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