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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / December 2007

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Dean Jann - 20 Dec 2007 04:21 GMT
I bought 2001 Camry LE certified two weeks ago.

Can't lock car door by turning key counter-clockwise; the key won't turn
in that direction.

To lock the door, I must either lock it from the inside before closing
the door or use the "keyless" remote lock button.

Is that normal for this model?
johngdole@hotmail.com - 20 Dec 2007 04:45 GMT
No, get it fixed under warranty. They must have missed that one in
their 160 point inspection.

> I bought 2001 Camry LE certified two weeks ago.
>
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> Is that normal for this model?
Dean Jann - 20 Dec 2007 05:12 GMT
> No, get it fixed under warranty. They must have missed that one in
> their 160 point inspection.

Thanks for your response.

Related question. Since the lock mechanism appears to be actuated by an
electrical impulse, would I be locked out of the car if the battery goes
completely dead?

Would I then have to break the window to get in?
mack - 20 Dec 2007 18:29 GMT
>> No, get it fixed under warranty. They must have missed that one in
>> their 160 point inspection.
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> Would I then have to break the window to get in?

This is strictly off the top of my head, so don't take it as gospel, but I
believe that the "clunk" you hear when you turn the key in the door lock is
simply to activate the locks on the other doors, and the one you're opening
operates mechanically.   (I have a similar car, so I hope that's correct!)
So most likely the individual door lock will work whether there's a battery
attached or not.
(Of course, if you want to find out for sure, you could disconnect the
battery and try the key, but then you'd have to reset the radio buttons and
clock when you reattach the battery.)
timbirr@mailcity.com - 20 Dec 2007 18:32 GMT
> > johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> battery and try the key, but then you'd have to reset the radio buttons and
> clock when you reattach the battery.)

I agree with Mack,  but did not want to post first and sound like a
fool....LOL.  I can "feel" the key turning the lock mechanism when I
use it in the door.  Much different than when I turn it a second time
to "unlock" the other doors, which are obviously being done by
electronic wizards zipping through car.
Dean Jann - 21 Dec 2007 01:22 GMT
> (Of course, if you want to find out for sure, you could disconnect the
> battery and try the key, but then you'd have to reset the radio buttons and
> clock when you reattach the battery.)

But it won't set the odometer back to zero now, will it?

I'd hate to see that happen.
sharx35 - 21 Dec 2007 06:22 GMT
>> (Of course, if you want to find out for sure, you could disconnect the
>> battery and try the key, but then you'd have to reset the radio buttons
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> I'd hate to see that happen.

Then, how DO electronic odometers retain their value?
mack - 21 Dec 2007 06:58 GMT
>>> (Of course, if you want to find out for sure, you could disconnect the
>>> battery and try the key, but then you'd have to reset the radio buttons
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> Then, how DO electronic odometers retain their value?

Umm, a digital watch doesn't reset to 12:00 when you remove the battery
....does it?
I'm quite sure removing the battery won't do a thing to the
odometer....otherwise we'd all be driving "new" cars every time we replaced
the battery.
Nobody Important - 21 Dec 2007 13:47 GMT
> Then, how DO electronic odometers retain their value?

They use an electronic device called an EEPROM.  It uses Fowler-Nordheim
tunnelling to implant a charge in a floating-gate transistor.  When the
power goes off, the memory is still retained.  It's the same principle
that USB keys or thumb drives work off of.

Note that because it's just a value in a memory, an arbitrary number can
be written by someone who wants to deceive you about the true mileage.
I saw a device to do that for $500 on the internet once.
sharx35 - 21 Dec 2007 14:04 GMT
>> Then, how DO electronic odometers retain their value?
>
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> be written by someone who wants to deceive you about the true mileage. I
> saw a device to do that for $500 on the internet once.

Thanks for the info.
 
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