My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
morning, the car engine will cut out when at a stop sign, light, or even
sometimes if I am not stepping on the gas. I have to put in park, restart
and keep the foot on the gas for a while, then go into drive and hope it
does not stall out.
I replaced the spark plugs, distributor cap and wires, hoping this
would take care of it but it did not do the trick - hate to get rid of the
car for this if I solve the problem - any thoughts?
Ralph Mowery - 27 Dec 2007 01:24 GMT
> My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
> rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
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> would take care of it but it did not do the trick - hate to get rid of the
> car for this if I solve the problem - any thoughts?
Similar problem on mine was a $ 600 mass air flow sensor or whatever it is
called.
JM - 27 Dec 2007 01:58 GMT
>> My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
>> rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
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> Similar problem on mine was a $ 600 mass air flow sensor or whatever it is
> called.
God whats it made out of SOLID GOLD ?
Johnny UK
Joe Wos - 06 Jan 2008 12:17 GMT
how can you be so stupid as to spend 600 dollars for a mass air flow
sensor. it's people like you that enable these rip of mechanics.
Ralph Mowery - 06 Jan 2008 14:42 GMT
That was done at the local Toyota dealer. It took them over 2 weeks to fix
the problem. I took it there as I would have thought they would have the
equipment and training to repair the problem.
Looking on one of the Autozone or maybe another web page they mentioned that
sensor could be part of my problem. I did not want to pay around $ 500 just
for a part unless I knew it would fix the problem.
I did feel ripped off to some extent as they replaced two otehr sensors for
about $ 100 each before they tried that sensor.
I had already replaced some of the simple low cost things like plugs, coil,
wires and fuel filter. All of them had lots of miles on them and probably
need it anyway.
> how can you be so stupid as to spend 600 dollars for a mass air flow
> sensor. it's people like you that enable these rip of mechanics.
David In NH - 27 Dec 2007 02:02 GMT
> My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
> rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
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> would take care of it but it did not do the trick - hate to get rid of the
> car for this if I solve the problem - any thoughts?
It might be as simple as cleaning the throttle body. I've done that a number
of times on different cars and when this is needed, the symptoms are the
same as you've described. If you can do it yourself, it'll cost you a couple
of bucks for the cleaner and a few rags or paper towels. If someone does it
for you, it shouldn't cost more than 1/2 hour labor. (It usually takes me
about 10 minutes to get this job done.)
I'm sure google-ing this will turn up how to clean it. (I think I may have
posted that myself.)
Good luck and let us know what happens.
Justa Lurker - 27 Dec 2007 02:38 GMT
> My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
> rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
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> would take care of it but it did not do the trick - hate to get rid of
> the car for this if I solve the problem - any thoughts?
Not suggesting that you "shotgun" the problem in lieu of diagnosis &
troubleshooting, but aren't the ignition coils troublesome on these cars
? I would think that could possibly cause problems when it is very damp
out if there was some sort of leakage path or whatever which kills the
spark at low idle.
Just a guess.
ransley - 27 Dec 2007 17:57 GMT
> > My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
> > rains only, if the car is not garaged, upon first starting out in the
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>
> Just a guess.
Its a common problem with that era, your coil under the distributor
cap is bad or contaminated with oil from a bad O ring seal, remove the
distributor cap and clean the coil with brake cleaner and put the cap
back on tight, did you use the new dist gasket you are supposed to
use? Coils do go bad. What happens is a the coil heats the moisture
condenses and shorts it. And im sure after its wamed up and let sit
for 45 minutes it is fine.
pquetzal - 28 Dec 2007 22:13 GMT
Thanks guys for the comments, the group is a great resource - ignition coil
and/or cleaning throttle body seems the way to go for my next move -
On Dec 26, 8:38 pm, Justa Lurker <JustaLur...@att.net> wrote:
> pquetzal wrote:
> > My 1991 Camry runs well except for one annoying problem. After heavy
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>
> Just a guess.
Its a common problem with that era, your coil under the distributor
cap is bad or contaminated with oil from a bad O ring seal, remove the
distributor cap and clean the coil with brake cleaner and put the cap
back on tight, did you use the new dist gasket you are supposed to
use? Coils do go bad. What happens is a the coil heats the moisture
condenses and shorts it. And im sure after its wamed up and let sit
for 45 minutes it is fine.
ransley - 28 Dec 2007 23:03 GMT
On Dec 28, 4:13 pm, "pquetzal" <pquet...@removethis.comcast.net>
wrote:
> Thanks guys for the comments, the group is a great resource - ignition coil
> and/or cleaning throttle body seems the way to go for my next move -
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> - Show quoted text -
Go for ignition coil it was my issue