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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / January 2008

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Brake Flush

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Bob - 23 Jan 2008 15:08 GMT
Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
rad and tranny  per maintenance recommendations but  see nothing in
maintenance instructions about flushing brake lines - after spending
over $100 with this dealer for a rusty gas cap I wonder if this is a
come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
Bob
mack - 23 Jan 2008 16:28 GMT
> Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
> wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
> Bob

I'm probably not the one to ask, but having driven over 25 cars for over 60
years, and never once draining and replenishing brake fluid without any
problems, I'd say forget it, especially with your vehicle's age and low
mileage.
I can't understand how a rusty gas cap (in a four year old car?) can cost
someone $100 though.
My thought is that vehicles are now built so trouble free that dealers have
to make up the shortfall in their service depts by doing totally unnecessary
work. (Sort of like dentists whose occupation is endangered by the lack of
cavities due to flouridation have to go into other areas like bleaching and
bonding and such.)
sorry, if there are dentists in the newsgroup.....
BigJim - 23 Jan 2008 19:17 GMT
that is just plain BS, that is not done even after having the brakes
replaced.
I would find another dealer to service my car.
> Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
> wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
> Bob
ACAR - 23 Jan 2008 22:45 GMT
> that is just plain BS, that is not done even after having the brakes
> replaced.

Brake lines are ALWAYS flushed after a brake service to ensure all the
air is purged.

> I would find another dealer to service my car."Bob" <Bob@rogers> wrote in message

Some car makes are more prone to caliper corrosion than others. Honda
calipers are notorious for freezing up if the brake fluid isn't
flushed every 2 or 3 years. Toyota calipers are better but complete
brake fluid replacement after 5 years or so is good preventative
maintenance.

Fluids aren't forever. Replacing the power steering fluid isn't a bad
idea, either.
BigJim - 24 Jan 2008 09:22 GMT
you don't flush the whole system, they are bled to get the air out.
Then a few ounces of fluid are add to bring the level up.

On Jan 23, 2:17 pm, "BigJim" <woody10...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> that is just plain BS, that is not done even after having the brakes
> replaced.

Brake lines are ALWAYS flushed after a brake service to ensure all the
air is purged.

> I would find another dealer to service my car."Bob" <Bob@rogers> wrote in
> message

Some car makes are more prone to caliper corrosion than others. Honda
calipers are notorious for freezing up if the brake fluid isn't
flushed every 2 or 3 years. Toyota calipers are better but complete
brake fluid replacement after 5 years or so is good preventative
maintenance.

Fluids aren't forever. Replacing the power steering fluid isn't a bad
idea, either.
SMS - 24 Jan 2008 01:25 GMT
> Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
> wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
> Bob

You should change the brake fluid and flush the brake lines when the
front brakes are replaced, which should be relatively soon if you've got
42,000 miles. It is strange that they don't recommend a brake fluid
change, since it does accumulate moisture. If you do mostly freeway
driving than the brakes may last 100,000 miles, in which case you may
want to get a brake fluid change now.

Did this dealer also suggest the Bilstein R-2000 Wallet Flush?
"http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20000408/ai_n11744401".
johngdole@hotmail.com - 24 Jan 2008 05:36 GMT
If you have ABS, you should every two years. Those units are
expensive.

Many companies, such as GM and Ford, use barrier hoses and do not
recommend brake fluid flushes. But brake fluid absorbs moisture over
time and the corrosion inhibitors get used up. I do it myself every
year, for about $5-7 per quart of the excellent Castrol GT LMA (Low
Moisture Activity) or Valvoline SynPower synthetic. But at $67+fluid
+taxes (probably comes out to $90-100) your mileage may vary.

Now you just have to make sure the lines are really flushed, and not
the fluid in the reservoir sucked out and replenished!!

> Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
> wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
> Bob
ransley - 24 Jan 2008 14:29 GMT
> Have a 2003 Corolla automatic - 42,000 miles - now service advisor
> wants to flush brake lines  $67.00 + fluid + taxes - I already flushed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> come on or necessary preventative maintenance? Any input appreciated.
> Bob

its not a bad idea but the price is, dealers always overcharge.
 
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