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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / February 2008

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Where to get warranty for my used Corolla?

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geronimo - 10 Feb 2008 18:22 GMT
ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
mfg. warranty?  More importantly are any reputable/honest or are they
rip-offs?
sharx35 - 11 Feb 2008 10:27 GMT
> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
> mfg. warranty?  More importantly are any reputable/honest or are they
> rip-offs?

Extended warranties are a waste of money. They are a major profit source for
anyone selling them. Period.
Pszemol - 11 Feb 2008 21:53 GMT
>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
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> Extended warranties are a waste of money. They are a major
> profit source for anyone selling them. Period.

I am not sure you can say this so definitive...
I got an extended warranty on my 04 honda accord
with no deductable for $550 and already used it up
on two electrical problems I would had to fix out of
my pocket... but they were free because of warranty.

You could probably find a lot of people who got
their money back spent on the warranty as well...
Of course, you can also find people purchasing
warranty to never use it in the future, but it does
not mean every case will be the same...

It will strongly depend on how much you have to pay
for such warranty and what is the car in question...
$2000 warranty on a S-Class mercedes or Audi A6/A8
would probably be a different story than the same
$2000 warranty on a corrolla which is more reliable
and does not cost so much to repair as mercedes or audi.

The same is with insurance - if it did not bring profit
for the insurance companies nobody would offer it...
It does make major profit to insure cars agains
liability or your own collision but you would still
do it if you had a car which you don't afford to lose.
sharx35 - 12 Feb 2008 03:12 GMT
>>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
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> liability or your own collision but you would still
> do it if you had a car which you don't afford to lose.

The FACTS are that insurance companies and warranty sellers receive MORE in
premiums than they PAY OUT in claims. Therefore, ON AVERAGE, it is better to
take responsibility for your OWN repairs. However, yes, in the ONE case I
bought an extended warranty, REALLY CHEAPLY, for a NEW 85 Hyundai Pony, it
paid off in spades. Hondas, too, might fall into that category. But MOST
Toyotas, no, it wouldn't pay to buy an extended warrant unless it was LESS
than ONE-QUARTER the initial price they asked for the warranty, e.g. $200 or
300 dollars.
Pszemol - 12 Feb 2008 13:31 GMT
> The FACTS are that insurance companies and warranty sellers receive MORE in
> premiums than they PAY OUT in claims. Therefore, ON AVERAGE, it is better to
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> than ONE-QUARTER the initial price they asked for the warranty, e.g. $200 or
> 300 dollars.

The whole idea of insurance or warranty is that "on average"
seller wins, otherwise he would not bother selling the product.
But as a client, if you buy it cheap, and read all the fineprint
to make sure you know what you are buying you have a chance to
fence off BIG repairs which might or might not happen.
You do not care about "on average". You have to decide if you can
afford replacing the car if something happens or buy insurance.
Unless you can pay for any repair out of pocket it is worth it
to buy warranty. Yes - you need to play the price game not only
with the price of the car, but also the price of the warranty.
I payed $550 after negotiating it down from thousands...
With the process of buying the warranty not from the dealer,
later in the game, it will be harder to lower the price much.
sharx35 - 13 Feb 2008 02:44 GMT
>> The FACTS are that insurance companies and warranty sellers receive MORE
>> in premiums than they PAY OUT in claims. Therefore, ON AVERAGE, it is
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> With the process of buying the warranty not from the dealer,
> later in the game, it will be harder to lower the price much.

You hit just about the right 'sweet' spot on price, as did I with the
warranty on my old Hyundai Pony. Unfortunately, literally MILLIONS get
sucked in.
mack - 12 Feb 2008 18:37 GMT
>>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
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> on two electrical problems I would had to fix out of
> my pocket... but they were free because of warranty.

The repairs were "free"?   In looking at your statement, it appears that the
repairs cost you $550, the cost of the warranty.
sharx35 - 13 Feb 2008 02:45 GMT
>>>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>>>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The repairs were "free"?   In looking at your statement, it appears that
> the repairs cost you $550, the cost of the warranty.

Valid point but the implication is that he would have had to pay thousands
for all the work done on his Honda. But Hondas...the Ford of Japan.
Pszemol - 14 Feb 2008 03:25 GMT
>>> I am not sure you can say this so definitive...
>>> I got an extended warranty on my 04 honda accord
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Valid point but the implication is that he would have had to
> pay thousands for all the work done on his Honda.

Maybe not thousands, but the first repair was needing
replacement of the electrical module with the parts cost
$380 not including labor. Second problem was related to
the rear window defroster and it was not anything simple
like a fuse (checked the fuse myself) but the electrician
spent whole morning on the repair. This one would cost
me a lot of labor if payed out of the pocket...

The extended warranty I got has no deductible, and
I have already noticed burned bulb under dasboard
switch so I am going to ask to replace this bulb
during next oil change service. According to the
warranty papers - interior, dashboard or instrument
cluster lamps/bulbs are covered so another thing I
do not have to worry about and it would probably cost
me $100 or more and I would not care to fix it for
that much anyway :-)

> But Hondas...the Ford of Japan.

Really? Why do you think so?
Do hondas have so bad track record?
Are they worse than toyotas or nissans?
I am sure they are at least better cars than mitsubishis :-)
Pszemol - 14 Feb 2008 03:18 GMT
>> I am not sure you can say this so definitive...
>> I got an extended warranty on my 04 honda accord
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> The repairs were "free"?   In looking at your statement,
> it appears that the repairs cost you $550, the cost of the warranty.

Yes, they did, but 1st: they would total more than $550
and 2nd: I am left with the warranty for many years to come
so if anything more will need attention it will not cost more.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 12 Feb 2008 04:51 GMT
So you got rid of the 88 Camry?

> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
> mfg. warranty?  More importantly are any reputable/honest or are they
> rip-offs?
geronimo - 16 Feb 2008 11:53 GMT
Not yet, but just yerterday I took a drive up to San Antonio and
bought an 04 Corolla 5-spd from original owner, 80 K miles. So now I
can get rid of the 88 Camry...I'll probably just give it to my inlaws
in town who are always needing cars. The only feature it didn't have
on it that I really want to have is  a cruise control.  I once bought
one from JC Witney which I installed on a Tercel I had some years ago.
It only lasted a little more than a year, just long enough for the
warranty to expire. So I am leery about ordering another one from
them.  Any ideas where to get a good aftermarket cruise cont. for this
car?  

>So you got rid of the 88 Camry?
>
>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
>> mfg. warranty?  More importantly are any reputable/honest or are they
>> rip-offs?
SMS - 14 Feb 2008 01:25 GMT
> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
> mfg. warranty?  More importantly are any reputable/honest or are they
> rip-offs?

I once had a policy through CSAA, which they called "All Risk." It paid
off for me big time, soon after I reluctantly agreed to sign up for it,
but you had to have <50K miles when you signed up. This was on a VW
Rabbit. They paid for a whole new manual transmission, a new clutch, and
new struts. At the beginning they didn't even exclude normal wear items.

It's probably not worth it on a Corolla under any circumstances. You're
probably looking at well over $1000 for another three years/36,000
miles, with large deductibles. Plus these type of companies love to find
any reason to deny a claim. If it were a BMW or other unreliable model,
then it might be worth spending the money.

On new cars, if you get the extended warranty, always get the genuine
manufacturer's extended warranty, not the third party one that the
dealer pushes, and always bargain on the price.

Some people don't understand the math on the extended warranties, and
automatically proclaim them as a bad deal, but this isn't always the
cas, and the insurance analogy is a bad one.

Remember that the amount the manufacturer pays the dealer for a covered
repair is a fraction of what you'd pay on your own. For example, a
single moderate problem could cost you $1500 if you paid for it, at the
dealer, on your own, but the dealer is probably getting only a few
hundred dollars from the manufacturer to fix it under warranty. You
could pay $1000 for the extended warranty, and have it cover a $1500
problem that the dealer gets paid $300 to fix. The "loser" is the
dealer, but only if that dealer would have been able to charge you
$1500, versus you going off to an independent shop and getting the
problem fixed for $750.
sharx35 - 14 Feb 2008 10:12 GMT
>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
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> automatically proclaim them as a bad deal, but this isn't always the cas,
> and the insurance analogy is a bad one.

Bull sh.t. Some dealers make MORE on crap like extended warranties then they
do on the actual SALE of a vehicle.

> Remember that the amount the manufacturer pays the dealer for a covered
> repair is a fraction of what you'd pay on your own. For example, a single
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> would have been able to charge you $1500, versus you going off to an
> independent shop and getting the problem fixed for $750.
geronimo - 16 Feb 2008 12:09 GMT
A relative of mine is telling me that since its an 04 Corolla and has
already over 80K miles on it, an extended warranty would be very, very
expensive.   I know its highly improbable that the engine or clutch
would suffer a major expensive  failure, given the reliability record
of COrolla, but it could happen.   I just cringe at the thought of the
engine cratering and maybe having to take out a loan to have it
replaced, still owing several thousands on the car.  Regards, Geronimo

>>> ITs on 03 corolla, 71K miles.  I think there are companies that sell
>>> used car warranties, for those buying used cars wheich no have any
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>> would have been able to charge you $1500, versus you going off to an
>> independent shop and getting the problem fixed for $750.
sharx35 - 17 Feb 2008 07:03 GMT
> A relative of mine is telling me that since its an 04 Corolla and has
> already over 80K miles on it, an extended warranty would be very, very
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>> would have been able to charge you $1500, versus you going off to an
>>> independent shop and getting the problem fixed for $750.

You don't have an emergency fund for such expenses? One should save up a
fund sufficient for SIX months average expenses before splurging ANYTHING on
home electronics, for example.
Pszemol - 19 Feb 2008 23:25 GMT
> You don't have an emergency fund for such expenses? One should save up a
> fund sufficient for SIX months average expenses before splurging ANYTHING
> on home electronics, for example.

That was funny! :-) People in USA have on average negative savings...
They simply do not save money, they spend borrowed money.
sharx35 - 20 Feb 2008 05:00 GMT
>> You don't have an emergency fund for such expenses? One should save up a
>> fund sufficient for SIX months average expenses before splurging ANYTHING
>> on home electronics, for example.
>
> That was funny! :-) People in USA have on average negative savings...
> They simply do not save money, they spend borrowed money.

Oh, it's not just in the States. Many of my income-tax clients are just a
couple of pay checks away from financial disaster.
 
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