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2000 Camry Trans Service and Wheel Bearing

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Zane E. Warren - 15 Feb 2008 01:37 GMT
I have a 2000 Camry with 172K miles. It is time for the transmission to be
serviced. The last time i had the typical flush and fill where they hook up
the car to a machine that pushes new fluid into the transmission and the old
out. Right now i have a minor leak around the pan so i know i need a new
gasket and filter for that matter. I have heard it both ways that i should
just drain and replace the filter and gasket and refill. Some people, even
the dealer say i need to flush and fill as well as the gasket and filter.
What should I do? if i replace the filter and gasket myself which is cheap
do i still need to take it to have it flushed?

Also I have a roaring coming from what i think is the rear of the car. It
seems to be getting worse. It is easy to hear at around 70 mph. I have been
told that this is very expensive. In suggestions of info would be
appreciated.

Zane
johngdole@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 02:20 GMT
I'm in the camp of not using the flush machine. First of all the
machine can't clean out the sediment at the bottom of the pan or clean
the magnets; second, a dirty strainer will be just as dirty
afterwards; thrid, if they still have reverse flush machines on the
market these days the sediments will get pushed into other components
where they shouldn't go; finally, if the machine simply taps into the
cooler lines not to flush, but to "exchange" old fluid with new, you
might as well just drain/refill three times with a short drive in
between. If you drain/refill ATF often for under $10 of fluids it
shouldn't even become black like engine oil.

If you do the work yourself make sure cleanliness is a top priority.
No lint, dirt, solvent etc. Tighten bolts in a circular pattern in
steps. I use 1/4" torque wrench from Harbor Freight to a slightly
tighter 96 in/lb (~$20 on sale).  Measure the amount of fluid drained
(from pan and differential) and refill with the proper amount. Since I
couldn't get Valvoline ATF on sale I just use Walmart Dexron in the
gallon jug. Good deal. You can get Toyota Dexron, but it's probably
just overpriced Mobil ATF like everything else they use.

I'll probably settle on drain/refill 7500 miles and strainer/gasket
(Fram ATF kit) 15000 miles for the dirty A-series Aisin transmission.
Gray particles are clutch pack/brake band friction material. This is
how transmissions fail -- gradually, imperceptibly until the thinner
clutch packs/brake bands can no longer engage on a cold morning and
the tranny slips.

Snap-on fluid exchanger ($5575, FYI only):
http://buy1.snapon.com/products/diagnostics/transmission-fluid-exchanger.asp?par
tno=EETF103A&dir=catalog


Fram ATF kit for A140E: FT1169, $10.60+shipping, rockauto.com
http://info.rockauto.com/Honeywell/FRAMDetail.html?FT1169_031006.jpg&FT1169AGask
et_031006.jpg


Harbor Freight 1/4"-drive torque wrench: ($19.99 on sale)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=2696

Hex socket (10mm needed):
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93193

> I have a 2000 Camry with 172K miles. It is time for the transmission to be
> serviced. The last time i had the typical flush and fill where they hook up
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>
> Zane
johngdole@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 02:39 GMT
Make sure it's the bearing and not sticking brakes grinding on the
drum/rotor. A friend with the proper knowledge and access to a press
willing to help out is cheaper, just buy a case of beer  :) See the
following Autozone free repair guide link on how to replace, 2000
similar. Your local NAPA should have a press and can help out for a
small tip if you buy the part there.

Wheel bearing assembly $61.79+shipping, rockauto.com:
http://info.rockauto.com/BeckArnley/Detail.html?0514044.jpg

Replacing wheel bearing, rear:
http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/13/f6/d4/0900823d8013f6d4/repai
rInfoPages.htm


Harbor Frieght 1/2" torque wrench 10-150 lb/ft $9.99 on sale:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=239

> Also I have a roaring coming from what i think is the rear of the car. It
> seems to be getting worse. It is easy to hear at around 70 mph. I have been
> told that this is very expensive. In suggestions of info would be
> appreciated.
>
> Zane
ransley - 15 Feb 2008 13:50 GMT
> I have a 2000 Camry with 172K miles. It is time for the transmission to be
> serviced. The last time i had the typical flush and fill where they hook up
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Zane

Flush machines push crap into where you dont want it, drop the pan and
change the filter, rear wheel bearings should be cheap unless your
dealer does it.
mack - 15 Feb 2008 21:07 GMT
On Feb 14, 7:37 pm, "Zane E. Warren" <zwar...@triad.rr.com> wrote:
> I have a 2000 Camry with 172K miles. It is time for the transmission to be
> serviced. The last time i had the typical flush and fill where they hook
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Zane

Flush machines push crap into where you dont want it, drop the pan and
change the filter, rear wheel bearings should be cheap unless your
dealer does it.

Agreed.   with your high mileage, I think you might do more harm than good
by flushing.   The old drain and refill a few times would be safer, I think.
If your car had 50 or 60K miles on it, flushing might be the better option,
but not now.
mjc13<REMOVETHIS> - 17 Feb 2008 09:28 GMT
> On Feb 14, 7:37 pm, "Zane E. Warren" <zwar...@triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
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> If your car had 50 or 60K miles on it, flushing might be the better option,
> but not now.

   It depends. If the transmission has been both flushed and the pan
serviced, alternately for the life of the car, a flush at high mileage
won't hurt it. It's when the transmission is allowed to get dirty that
flushes become problematic, IMO. We got our '95 Camry with 99k miles on
it and an indifferent service record. It's had alternate flushes and
changes, and is still fine at 175k, 8+ years later.

   That roaring could be just a wheel bearing. If so, it isn't
horrifically expensive. Coincidentally, ours has an intermittent 'roar'
in the left front. I haven't decided yet if it's the bearing or the
tire, because it comes and goes, and sometimes gets louder on right
turns, sometimes not...
 
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