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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / March 2008

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Rear shock absorbers (struts)

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ma - 15 Mar 2008 01:47 GMT
Hi there,

I have these questions for a 1997 Camry 4cyl 123,000 miles:

1- Does replacing REAR struts require rear wheels alignment?
2- Is replacing rear struts a difficult task for a person with
good mechanical knowledge?
I have enough tools to do the job, I just want to know I
will not need to have special tools or to have to do an alignment!

Thanks in advance.
Nobody Important - 15 Mar 2008 02:02 GMT
> I have these questions for a 1997 Camry 4cyl 123,000 miles:
>
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> I have enough tools to do the job, I just want to know I
> will not need to have special tools or to have to do an alignment!

I used Monroe Quick-struts and didn't need any special tools because
they come as a complete assembly that you simply swap out. You can do
the rears in an afternoon with no prior experience.

As for the alignment, we got one, but we did the rears and fronts at the
same time. I think the adjustments you can make on the rear of a FWD
Camry are limited, so you may not need one but I am not an expert.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
When I swapped mine out for Monroe mounts and Gabriel Ultra struts
from Autozone the front toes changed. The rear stayed the same. The
instruction said if the fronts are changed you need alignment. So I
think you don't have to worry about the rear alignment unless
something is bent.

I was going to get the QuickStrut assembly, but really wanted the
excellent Gabriel Ultras for typical driving. Heard good things about
the SensaTracs, but would go for the new Reflex that Monroe phased in
in place of the SensaTracs in the QuickStrut.

It will be cheaper if you buy the new assembly. Because the mount is
probably in poor shape not to mention the strut bellows.

> Hi there,
>
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>
> Thanks in advance.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 03:49 GMT
You may want to take thetime to remove the rear shelf so as to be able
to properly torque the mounting nuts. Otherwise you might get squeaks.
If you use QuickStrut assembly it's even easier. If you can do brakes
and exercise the needed care, then swapping the whole assembly out
should be a breeze. Remove the stabilizer-to-strut connecting rods for
room to swing the assemblies out.

Personally I'd stay away from the OEM struts or the KYBs (aka Keep
Your Bilsteins). But YMMV.

Autozone's Loan-a-Tool program, free but need deposit:
http://www.autozone.com/in_our_stores/loan_a_tool/steering_suspension/strut_spri
ng_tool.htm


Harbor Freight 1/2" 25" breaker bar $9.99 on sale also helps if you
haven't got one:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=30395

Gabriel Ultra G-Force video:
http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

Monroe Quick Strut assembly:
http://www.monroe.com/products/mp_detail.asp?cat=0&detail=Quick-Strut

> Hi there,
>
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>
> Thanks in advance.
mack - 15 Mar 2008 17:56 GMT
> Hi there,
>
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>
> Thanks in advance.

Since I have a same-year Camry with 20,000 more miles than yours, I wonder
what the indications are to you that you need new shocks on the rear?   Is
the rear end bouncing significanly?   or?
sharx35 - 16 Mar 2008 03:12 GMT
>> Hi there,
>>
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> what the indications are to you that you need new shocks on the rear?   Is
> the rear end bouncing significanly?   or?

That question is getting rathe personal. Are all you LIEbrawl types that
interested in same sex rear ends?
mack - 16 Mar 2008 17:35 GMT
>>> Hi there,
>>>
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> That question is getting rathe personal. Are all you LIEbrawl types that
> interested in same sex rear ends?

Go do something productive, like play with yourself (again), you Canuck
putz.
ma - 16 Mar 2008 23:54 GMT
Yes, your guess is right.
When I push on the trunk and let go, it bounces several times.

That is one reason, the other is backing out of driveway with
a few people in the back I always hear the muffler dragging over
the concrete.

But anyways, I gave up on the idea. Monroe Quick-struts are about
$312 each ($624 both) way out of my budget for 11 year old car.

>> Hi there,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> what the indications are to you that you need new shocks on the rear?   Is
> the rear end bouncing significanly?   or?
mack - 17 Mar 2008 01:02 GMT
> Yes, your guess is right.
> When I push on the trunk and let go, it bounces several times.
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> But anyways, I gave up on the idea. Monroe Quick-struts are about
> $312 each ($624 both) way out of my budget for 11 year old car.
Wow.   Is that only the parts ? or parts and labor?

Any way to work around these prices?   Like buying online, perhaps?
Clay - 17 Mar 2008 16:24 GMT
Last year I bought all four Monroe Quick-Struts for my mother's 1999
V-6 Camry.
I purchased them from Strutmasters.  www.strutmasters.com  Shop
around, you may find a better price but who knows.
The ease of installation was well worth the price.
There are several advantages to the Monroe Quick-Strut over
conventional replace the struts.
A new spring and upper mount are already installed. No dangerous
springs to get loose and bust you in the chops.
Quick-Strut®
Quick and easy... remove and replace one piece!
No need to take apart entire assembly.
No need to compress coil springs.
Do the complete job right the first time.
Enhances the handling, safety and performance of your vehicle.

1. Bearing Plate
2. Upper Spring Isolator
3. Upper Spring Seat
4. Coil Spring
5. Boot Kit
6. Lower Spring Isolator
7. Sensa-Trac® Strut

http://www.monroe.com/products/mp_detail.asp?cat=0&detail=Quick-Strut
Clay - 17 Mar 2008 16:25 GMT
I fogot to mention that the ride and handling are great.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2008 02:55 GMT
Yes, the parts in the local stores are pricey. But online you'll get
better deals even with the shipping cost for the heavy items. Some
places run specials with free shipping.

Another way is to pull old strut assemblies out of a low miles 2001 V6
Camrys of the same chassis series (SXV20, VCV20, MCV20). Check local
junk yards and see what they charge. They'll be 7 years old but may
still work (fingers crossed). This is the cheapest way I know.

> Wow.   Is that only the parts ? or parts and labor?
>
> Any way to work around these prices?   Like buying online, perhaps?
johngdole@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2008 02:49 GMT
Check rockauto.com, these list for about $190.79 for the rears (and
$245.79 for the fronts).  Shipping will cost about $20 each however
for these heavy items.

Toyota cheaped out and used weak springs on the 4 cyl. The QuickStrut
numbers are also for 6-cyl, so I assume they use the better springs
(call Monroe to verify). The QuickStrut only costs marginally more
than buying your own spring, lower spring rubber insulator and Gabriel
Ultra strut.

> Yes, your guess is right.
> When I push on the trunk and let go, it bounces several times.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But anyways, I gave up on the idea. Monroe Quick-struts are about
> $312 each ($624 both) way out of my budget for 11 year old car.
Nobody Important - 18 Mar 2008 03:29 GMT
> Check rockauto.com, these list for about $190.79 for the rears (and
> $245.79 for the fronts).  Shipping will cost about $20 each however
> for these heavy items.

Also check out shockwarehouse.com .  We ordered from there and were
happy.  It was marginally cheaper than rockauto (at least to Canada).
I've also ordered from rockauto and was happy, so I can recommend either
place.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
I actaully did moments ago on shockwarehouse.com, but for some reason
they didn't list the QuickStruts for the 97 Camry.

I know they were on there before running a special of free shipping a
few years back. I just didn't see it today.

> Also check out shockwarehouse.com .  We ordered from there and were
> happy.  It was marginally cheaper than rockauto (at least to Canada).
> I've also ordered from rockauto and was happy, so I can recommend either
> place.
 
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