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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / April 2008

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joeatch2 - 19 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT
Toyota has the single largest recall of any vehicle manufacturer in
the US this past year.  Consumer reports used to give them the green
light when recommending quality vehciles.  They do not do this anymore
because the quality has gone down significantly.  Insurance companies
we use are publicly traded or have been in business for 25 years.
We're not going anywhere.
Ritter 197 - 20 Mar 2008 01:51 GMT
THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
That is for all of 2007.

> Toyota has the single largest recall of any vehicle manufacturer in
> the US this past year.  Consumer reports used to give them the green
> light when recommending quality vehciles.  They do not do this anymore
> because the quality has gone down significantly.  Insurance companies
> we use are publicly traded or have been in business for 25 years.
> We're not going anywhere.
Ritter 197 - 20 Mar 2008 01:55 GMT
FORD had 14 recalls. Chrysler 7.

> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
> That is for all of 2007.
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>> we use are publicly traded or have been in business for 25 years.
>> We're not going anywhere.
Ritter 197 - 20 Mar 2008 01:57 GMT
Jeep had 9 recalls in 2007

> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
> That is for all of 2007.
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>> we use are publicly traded or have been in business for 25 years.
>> We're not going anywhere.
ransley - 20 Mar 2008 04:48 GMT
> Jeep had 9 recalls in 2007
>
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Look at Numbers recalled and compare it to 15 yrs ago, its called too
rapid an expansion, to sell the most cars.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 07:10 GMT
Check the number of units affected, Toyota was worse than Honda and
GM.

> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
> That is for all of 2007.
Ritter 197 - 20 Mar 2008 10:32 GMT
True, but you said it was the WORST and that is not true. JEEP was!

> Check the number of units affected, Toyota was worse than Honda and
> GM.
>
>> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
>> That is for all of 2007.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 21 Mar 2008 03:32 GMT
You can compare numbers or percentages. Jeep is not a company BTW.

> True, but you said it was the WORST and that is not true. JEEP was!
john - 24 Mar 2008 09:34 GMT
On 21 Mar, 09:32, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> You can compare numbers or percentages. Jeep is not a company BTW.
>
> > True, but you said it was the WORST and that is not true. JEEP was!- Sembunyikan teks kutipan -
>
> - Tampilkan teks kutipan -

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C. E. White - 24 Mar 2008 15:19 GMT
> Check the number of units affected, Toyota was worse than Honda and
> GM.

If you just look at the raw, unexplained numbers, Toyota recalled
slightly more vehicles than GM in 2007. Ford, Chrysler, and VW all
recalled far more vehicles than Toyota in 2007. It should be noted
that a significant number of the "Toyota" recall were not vehicle
recalls, they were a recall for an aftermarket accessory floormat (an
"equipment" recall). Another group of "Toyota" recalls were for
dealer/distributor installed cruise controls provided by a US company.
If you delete the recalls for the floor mats and cruise controls (not
truly "Toyota" products), Toyota had fewer recalls than GM.

See http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007712270343 and
http://home.mindspring.com/~cewhite3/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/2007_re
calls_vehicles.xls


Ed White

>> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL
>> classes.
>> That is for all of 2007.
aptpupil - 02 Apr 2008 04:08 GMT
yeah, plus just because something was recalled doesn't necessarily indicate
a bad mark. it could be good news that a company is recalling something,
rather than allowing the problem to fester. maybe it's a sign of being
proactive or of good customer service. i'd rather a company recall something
and fix it than not recall it and have it go wrong later and have them leave
me out in the cold. so, you can't look at just one data point (recall
frequency or raw number) to determine much of anything about the car or car
company.
-c

>> Check the number of units affected, Toyota was worse than Honda and
>> GM.
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>>> THAT is not true when I see only 7 recalls by Toyota for ALL classes.
>>> That is for all of 2007.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 07:08 GMT
I think in a couple of years ago percentage wise the only company
worse than Toyota (~10%) was Ford (~12%) in terms of recalls. Last
year Honda and Toyota recall numbers are still higher than GM and all
but Ford improved.

David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Thursday, December 27, 2007

"But perhaps the biggest news among Asian automakers was the problems
Toyota Motor Corp. had with reliability and recalls. Though down to
573,554 recalled vehicles from 657,308 in 2006, the Japanese company
this month recalled about 10 percent of its Tundra pickups and earlier
this year recalled more than 500,000 of its Sequoia SUVs. That's
significant because Toyota has been pushing hard to break into the
highly profitable large vehicle market."

> Toyota has the single largest recall of any vehicle manufacturer in
> the US this past year.  Consumer reports used to give them the green
> light when recommending quality vehciles.  They do not do this anymore
> because the quality has gone down significantly.  Insurance companies
> we use are publicly traded or have been in business for 25 years.
> We're not going anywhere.
 
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