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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / June 2008

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Petrol/Gas prices. UK.

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JM - 17 Jun 2008 17:17 GMT
As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
And garages are running out of fuel.

A garage in the south of the UK has priced its fuel at
GB£2 for 1 Litre for unleaded.
That = GB£9 for a UK gallon
therefore  US$17 a gallon.

He stated he is not a racketeer but wanting folk not to fill
there tanks and only take what they need.

HE still has fuel for sale.

I would NEVER visit that garage again.

Johnny UK
mack - 17 Jun 2008 21:00 GMT
> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
> And garages are running out of fuel.
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>
> Johnny UK

Ouch!   Time to dust off the old Royal Enfield motorbike.  (and set the
Daimler on fire to collect the insurance.)
Johnny, you may not be aware that in the US, motorists who own big SUV's and
Hummers are sometimes turned down by the dealers when they want to trade
them in on a little gas-sipper.   They just shrug and ask "who are we going
to sell 'em to?"
JM - 17 Jun 2008 22:32 GMT
>> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
>> And garages are running out of fuel.
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> trade them in on a little gas-sipper.   They just shrug and ask "who are
> we going to sell 'em to?"
I think that is happening now to.

Ok on the Enfield.
I was a bike man in younger days,
Have a plated right legs to prove it Lol.

Had,

225 Francis Barnett
197 Dot Scrambler.
600cc Norton Dominator
500cc Gold Star Club man  ( WOW )
and ended with a Royal Enfield  750cc Constellation.
Late with a Garrard Sidecar on it.
It was the one with the construction like Banana sections.
Maybe it never got to the states.
But it was top of the heap then lol.

I remember the Enfield had a Nuetral finder on the gearbox.
You kicked the lever with your heel , rear of the gear change.
I real novel addition lol.

Johnny UK
mack - 20 Jun 2008 20:05 GMT
>>> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
>>> And garages are running out of fuel.
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>
> Johnny UK

Johnny,
The prettiest motorcycle I ever saw was a late 1940s Sunbeam, in a showroom
in Hollywood, California.
Second best was a friend's Ariel Square Four, which sounded like an
automobile when started.    Another beauty was the Triumph Speedtwin.
The only Triumph I ever rode on almost killed me, since I got the hang of it
while riding slowly in a parking lot, and when I was going to take it out
onto the street, ran into a stranded steel cable which was ...neck high.
Fortunately, I was only going two miles an hour, so it dragged me off the
seat and the back fender, but had I been going just a tad faster, I'd have
either broken my neck or .......been decapitated.
Fifty plus years later it still gives me the shivers how close I came to a
quick demise.
ransley - 17 Jun 2008 22:15 GMT
> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
> And garages are running out of fuel.
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>
> Johnny UK

Is an imperial Gallon is larger than a US gallon?  People are being
offered so little for 4wd hogs that many will not trade them.
JM - 17 Jun 2008 22:24 GMT
On Jun 17, 11:17 am, "JM" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote:
> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
> And garages are running out of fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Johnny UK

Is an imperial Gallon is larger than a US gallon?  People are being
offered so little for 4wd hogs that many will not trade them.

Hi,

A UK gallon is 4.5 litres give or take.

It was just announced on our News program 20 minutes ago.

4X4 sales down 18% over last months.

Little cars sales up 34%

and bicycles sales is up 10%.

But its in the pipe line for BIG road tax hikes. Big 4X4s will be circa £400
next year
rising to twice that before 2010.

Johnny UK
Roadrunner NG - 17 Jun 2008 22:55 GMT
I would have guessed that the way gas prices are heading, US 4x4s and SUV
sales would have dropped about 90%, but somehow they keep selling.
I do understand that there are some absolute needs (supposedly anyway, like
carrying plywood twice a year), but only a 10-20% decrease? Is it just me or
am I missing a weekly drop of 10-20%/week on light truck sales over the last
several weeks? Soon, they will be worth more in scrap metal than in trade in
value.

In Taipei I didn't see any Suburban size or 1/2 ton 4x4s and somehow they
get by, and no they are not midgets. But you ought to see and hear 3-400 2
stroke
scooters all take off from a red light at the same time in the deep metro
areas(think smoky bar bee hive). I did see a dad with 2 kids(backpacks) and
a dog, and brief case
all heading out together in the morning on a 150cc size scooter. I don't
thing we're ready for that yet in the US, especially in January in the
midwest. But who know, if prices get as
high as they are in the UK, you may see a lot of changes in trasportation
lifestyle. It's coming, just don't know when. My 75 year old dad just bought
a bike for the first time in 35 years and is riding it to the store, that's
a shift.

> On Jun 17, 11:17 am, "JM" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote:
>> As we are in the middle of a petrol tanker drivers strike in the UK
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Johnny UK
mack - 19 Jun 2008 19:27 GMT
>I would have guessed that the way gas prices are heading, US 4x4s and SUV
>sales would have dropped about 90%, but somehow they keep selling.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> bought a bike for the first time in 35 years and is riding it to the
> store, that's a shift.

I wish your Dad all kinds of good luck with his bike....but since I don't
relish being mowed down on a two-wheeler by a Lincoln Navigator or Chevy
Suburban, or even a Yaris, thankyouverymuch, I'll bite the bullet and pay
the extra couple of bucks for fuel and keep driving a car.
  I can imagine a scenario wherein a guy languishing in a hospital bed with
a broken pelvis, a compound leg fracture or a cracked skull muses to himself
"If only I'd paid the extra buck for a gallon of gas, I wouldn't be here!:"
This is what keeps me from getting a Vespa, though I love scooters - my
first vehicle was a Cushman about 60 years ago, and it was the only vehicle
I ever owned from which I got a concussion.
Don't get me wrong - bikes are great, on bicycle paths 'way away from
automobiles.
 
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