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Car Forum / Toyota / Camry / July 2009

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timing belt vs drive belt

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Ace - 09 Jul 2009 23:08 GMT
I called the dealer and asked them specifically when my timing belt
had been replaced and what the mileage was. The woman answering said
the 'drive belt' had been replaced on so and so date etc. Is the drive
belt and the timing belt the same thing? What would be the recommended
mileage between timing belt changes for a 4cylinder 99 camry?
Johnny Melvin - 10 Jul 2009 00:01 GMT
>I called the dealer and asked them specifically when my timing belt
> had been replaced and what the mileage was. The woman answering said
> the 'drive belt' had been replaced on so and so date etc. Is the drive
> belt and the timing belt the same thing? What would be the recommended
> mileage between timing belt changes for a 4cylinder 99 camry?

Hi,

I am pretty sure its recommended at 60.000 miles.
I had mine changed at 64.K.
Mine is a 1995 but I don't see it changing to 99.

Cheers
Johnny UK
Wes - 10 Jul 2009 02:33 GMT
> >I called the dealer and asked them specifically when my timing belt
> > had been replaced and what the mileage was. The woman answering said
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Cheers
> Johnny UK

One of the reasons I have purchased Camry 4 cylinder (2005) is that it
does not have a scheduled change of the timing belt - 6 cylinder has.
I have not found in my owner's manual, any scheduled/recommended
change of the "drive belt", which I assume is a serpentine belt.
norm46 - 10 Jul 2009 14:12 GMT
> > "Ace" <nko...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> I have not found in my owner's manual, any scheduled/recommended
> change of the "drive belt", which I assume is a serpentine belt.

My 1999 Camry has 180K+ and the timing/drive belt was changed once at
about 170K as the original belt broke will in park. The engine made a
bad noise and quit. Would not restart. Had the car hauled, belt
replaced and started up first time. That was over 1 year and 10K+
miles ago. Thankfully the engineers at Toyota made the engine so that
nothing else breaks.
My $.02
Norm
bad@bob.net - 10 Jul 2009 23:47 GMT
>> >I called the dealer and asked them specifically when my timing belt
>> > had been replaced and what the mileage was. The woman answering said
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>I have not found in my owner's manual, any scheduled/recommended
>change of the "drive belt", which I assume is a serpentine belt.

My 2004 Camry 4 has a timing chain.
My 1998 Camry 4 has a timing belt.
Toyota went back to a chain around 2000 or 2002 on the 4 cyl.
john - 11 Jul 2009 05:35 GMT
5-year 60K miles is a good interval, especially for the do-it-
yourselfers. 6-year 90K mile that came in the later years of those
engine is stretching the limit. Timing belt already began to stretch
~50K miles and the grease in the pulleys were drying up then too. But
if people have to pay dealer prices then try not to go beyond 6/90K
miles. Although I've heard owners driving with 200K miles! ;) ;) ;)

> I am pretty sure its recommended at 60.000 miles.
> I had mine changed at 64.K.
Wes - 11 Jul 2009 13:40 GMT
> 5-year 60K miles is a good interval, especially for the do-it-
> yourselfers. 6-year 90K mile that came in the later years of those
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > I am pretty sure its recommended at 60.000 miles.
> > I had mine changed at 64.K.

Any recommendations as to the "drive belt" (one that drives external
"accessories")?
john - 15 Jul 2009 04:14 GMT
No. These are usually inspected at various intervals. For example, oil
changes, intermediate services, major service, etc. In fact, at the
older 5yr/60K timing belt interval I don't think any decent belt would
snap on you. Maybe minor hairline cracks and lost some tension.
Today's belts are much more reliable than before.

Drive belts are replaced if glazed, cracked, or worn. However, I'd
just change them with the timing belt 5yr/60K miles since they'll be
off anyway and are cheap online.

> Any recommendations as to the "drive belt" (one that drives external
> "accessories")?
john - 11 Jul 2009 05:29 GMT
99 Camry uses the 5SFE engine. It has a timing belt.

Customarily "drive belts" refer to belts driving external
"accessories", such as power steering, alternator, and A/C compressor.
So when the woman says "drive belts", I would NOT take it as the
"timing belt".

If the timing belt was change, there should have been a small sticker
on the timing cover telling you the time and date. Maybe it was never
put on there or maybe it fell off. But if it's not there and the woman
didn't say "timing belt" was changed, then I'd assume it's not.

If you do need to change it, do a complete job and negotiate a price
before hand. What's complete job? They should include the following
(you can use OEM parts, but here I made a list from rockauto.com):

GATES TCK199 (kit of timing belt with two pulleys and instruction)
$84.79
GATES Part # K030295 PS belt $4.32
GATES Part # K050435 Alt/AC $12.12
FEL-PRO TCS45641 Cam seal $4.11
FEL-PRO TCS45920 Crank seal $6.04
BCA Part # 221820 Oil pump seal $2.71
AISIN (Toyota #16110-79185) water pump $58.79
FEL-PRO VS50304R valve cover gasket set $13.94
BECK/ARNLEY 0396428 $1.87 (PCV grommet)

> I called the dealer and asked them specifically when my timing belt
> had been replaced and what the mileage was. The woman answering said
> the 'drive belt' had been replaced on so and so date etc. Is the drive
> belt and the timing belt the same thing? What would be the recommended
> mileage between timing belt changes for a 4cylinder 99 camry?
john - 11 Jul 2009 05:31 GMT
Correction: timing belt change sticker shows mileage and date. :)
 
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