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david - 19 Oct 2009 21:06 GMT
hi
I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
all.  It would click and that's it.
I managed to get a jump and took it in to have its battery replaced.
The battery terminals are not corroded as they have been always
treated.  However this morning it would not crank again.  It clicked
each time the key was turned and cranked on the fourth.
Now i am suspecting that the issue is with the starter.  Can someone
please tell me where the started is located and the procedures to
replace it just in case.  Any pictures or a link will also be very
helpful
thanks
C. E. White - 20 Oct 2009 04:16 GMT
> hi
> I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
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> helpful
> thanks

The starter is very easy to find. Follow the large positive cable from the
battery. It may go through a junction box, but the largest cable under the
hood is routed to the starter. The starter will be bolted to the engine bell
housing. According to the AutoZone repair guide you will need to remove the
battery and possibly the cruise control actuator to get to the starter. To
see for yourself, you need to go to AutoZone.Com and register. You can also
read about it at:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_replace_at_1998_Toyota_Camry_Starter

There is a good chance that the terminals in the starter solenoid (the small
cylinder bolted to the starter) have eroded away, leading to connection
problems. For some reason Toyota seems particularly prone to this.

Ed
Sharx35 - 20 Oct 2009 05:02 GMT
>> hi
>> I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
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>
> Ed

He makes it look easy, in that link.
david - 20 Oct 2009 20:40 GMT
> >> hi
> >> I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Update- I took the car to autozone and the starter tested good.
thanks for the responses
C. E. White - 21 Oct 2009 01:20 GMT
> Update- I took the car to autozone and the starter tested good.
> thanks for the responses

Two questions:

How did they test the starter?

Did you determine the actual problem?

Ed
norm46 - 21 Oct 2009 13:27 GMT
Related problem on 1989 Celica. This car would do the same thing esp.
if the weather turned cold, I spent many dollars on it. Replaced
battery, terminals starter, cables and switches to no avail. The AAA
guy showed me how to jump the starter with a wire. Doing this I could
at least get home. The car went to my daughter in-law along with the
wire to jump it. The car is now being recycled and I still do not know
why it did this. Starter was replaced 5 times by me and the last was
paid for by the Toyota dealer. The master mechanic was left scratching
his head. I know this does not help but just my .02. If you want I
think I remember how to jump the starter so if you want I can let you
know how.
Norm
david - 21 Oct 2009 14:20 GMT
> > Update- I took the car to autozone and the starter tested good.
> > thanks for the responses
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>
> Ed

They put a test set to the battery and ran a test and then had me
start the car.  After that they told me that the starter was good.

No, i have not determine what the problem is.  It is my wife car- the
issue she described happened to me just once (just a click when you
turn the key) after that i had the battery replaced as it was 4 year
old.  The battery did test out to have less cold cranking amps.  Since
the battery was replaced I have not experienced the issue whenever i
have started it.  However my wife claims it has happened the very next
day after the battery was replaced.  Will keep you posted
thanks
camryguy89 - 21 Oct 2009 18:18 GMT
I had the same issue a couple years back. The starter was fine, but it
was the contacts in the solenoid that were causing the issue. Took it
to a back yard mechanic and had it rebuilt for under a 100 bucks. No
problems since.
Sharx35 - 22 Oct 2009 09:53 GMT
> I had the same issue a couple years back. The starter was fine, but it
> was the contacts in the solenoid that were causing the issue. Took it
> to a back yard mechanic and had it rebuilt for under a 100 bucks. No
> problems since.

Is a backyard mechanic similar to a "shade tree mechanic"?
hls - 25 Oct 2009 15:43 GMT
"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Y3VDm.49865

> Is a backyard mechanic similar to a "shade tree mechanic"?

Not in my book...

There is the story of the woman who was unlucky in
love, and divorced several husbands for failure to perform.  She found
happiness, finally, with a "shadetree mechanic", because he tore it up
the first night and has been working on it ever since.
david - 28 Oct 2009 01:47 GMT
K thanks all for the responses.  Since we are still having this issue
I have decided to go ahead and replace the starter contacts as well as
the solenoid plunger.  I have the following questions

1.  Are these parts usually keep in stock at the dealership or do they
have to be ordered?
2.  On the Autozone website- I was reading thru the part (step 3) of
the removing the cruise actuator and looked at my 00 V6 Camry and the
actuator does not look like the one in the picture.  I don't have the
three bolts.  Also so i don't damage anything in haste. How do i pop
the cover?
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/repairinfo/repairguide/repairGuideContent.jsp?c
hapterTitle=Starting+System&partName=Engine+Electrical&pageId=0900c15280092462&s
ubChapterTitle=Starter&partId=0900c1528009244d

3. Now on to the actual starter- I understand that i need to uncover
the rubber boot on the end facing the outward and unscrew the negative
terminal.  Question is on the other end the inward facing positive - I
don't have much room - how do i get that off?  Should i unscrew the
starter and turn it over?  Also how is the positive wire connected -
do i need to pull it out or is there a lever to pop etc etc

Thanks all
hls - 28 Oct 2009 22:24 GMT
"david" <athaided@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:af8569fc-2785-49bf-

> 1.  Are these parts usually keep in stock at the dealership or do they
> have to be ordered?

I wouldnt go to a dealership.  Dealerships often replace entire units, not
fix
the faulty ones.. And their prices can be sky high.

Take the starter off and take it to a good local starter and alternator
shop.  They should have all the parts necessary to replace the contacts and
anything else they may find wrong.  Let them do the internal work on the
solenoid and starter.

> 2.  On the Autozone website- I was reading thru the part (step 3) of
> the removing the cruise actuator and looked at my 00 V6 Camry and the
> actuator does not look like the one in the picture.  I don't have the
> three bolts.  Also so i don't damage anything in haste. How do i pop
> the cover?

That cover looks like it is held over the actuator by some spring tabs.
It is impossible to tell from the photo, but this type of thing will
ordinarily
disengage by depressing the spring tab to unlock it from a slot or similar.
Just go slowly and dont get physical with it.   Once you get that cover off,
you should see if you have three bolts hidden under it, or some other
variant.

> 3. Now on to the actual starter- I understand that i need to uncover
> the rubber boot on the end facing the outward and unscrew the negative
> terminal.  Question is on the other end the inward facing positive - I
> don't have much room - how do i get that off?  Should i unscrew the
> starter and turn it over?  Also how is the positive wire connected -
> do i need to pull it out or is there a lever to pop etc etc

Sometimes you DONT have much room in there.  Remove the negative
battery cable first and dress it out of the way.  Then remove the starter
bolts
and turn it however you need to to access any other electrical connections.

"The book" seldom gives you all the steps you need to follow to do something
like this.  It is normal.  But you should be able to observe what is holding
you
up, and to go slowly and carefully to work out of the problem.

A couple of years ago I spent two days getting the evaporatore core out of
my van.  "The book" didnt tell about the hidden screws, etc etc.  I put the
sucker back together in just a couple of hours.

Expect a few scrapes and bruises.  If you get frustrated, dont fight it.
Sit down,
have a soft drink, and think about it.
C. E. White - 22 Oct 2009 12:39 GMT
> They put a test set to the battery and ran a test and then had me
> start the car.  After that they told me that the starter was good.

> No, i have not determine what the problem is.  It is my wife car-
> the
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> day after the battery was replaced.  Will keep you posted
> thanks

Sounds like erroded contacts in the solenoid. It won't get better over
time. The contacts are replaceable - if you can find someone who has
them (maybe the dealer, more likely a local auto electric company).

Ed
NickySantoro - 25 Oct 2009 14:27 GMT
>hi
>I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>helpful
>thanks

Some good info regarding this here.......

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/starter/
Al Moodie - 30 Oct 2009 02:51 GMT
>hi
>I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>helpful
>thanks

Are you sure it's the starter that's at fault, maybe the battery is
flat again. Get a jump or recharge the battery, if it starts then you
know the battery was flat.

If the battery was flat again and the battery is new then the likely
culprit is the alternator, faulty diodes will drain the battery flat
overnight.

Have alternator tested. Replace if faulty, you will need to recharge
the battery again.
hls - 30 Oct 2009 21:28 GMT
>>hi
>>I have a V6 2000 toyota camry.  Yesterday the car would not crank at
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> Have alternator tested. Replace if faulty, you will need to recharge
> the battery again.

At the first of the thread, he intimated that he had the problem, had the
battery replaced, but the problem persists.

They also tested the starter on the car, but the starter showed good.

IMO, he needs to go at this with systematic troubleshooting rather
than shooting from the hip, but it is his car.

I think we have all tried to answer what he asked rather than to give
him a systematic way to get at the problem.
 
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