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LB - 10 Oct 2005 02:50 GMT
Hi,
I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
engine noise on acceleration mostly). It reminded me my old 1995 Toyota
Tercel. Our other car is 2005 Subaru Outback. Prius seems to be MUCH noiser
then Subaru. Ride is also a bit rougher (probably because it close to the
ground). It also gives kinda "tincan" feeling (not too offend anyone on this
group), probably due to close ceilling.

The car I tried had 20k on it (used, but still 2005). What do other people
think about my observations?
Thanks
Bill - 10 Oct 2005 03:41 GMT
> Hi,
> I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> think about my observations?
> Thanks

I noticed my 2005 was quite quiet compared to my Ford Explorer.  Several of
my passengers have commented to that effect.

How close a car is to the ground has little effect on the ride.

You must have a very, very quiet Subaru.
Earle Jones - 10 Oct 2005 04:43 GMT
> Hi,
> I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> think about my observations?
> Thanks

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I have both a Subaru Outback wagon (2001) and a Prius (2005).  In my
opinion, the Prius has better acceleration and is just as quiet as
the Subaru.  

The best gas mileage I have ever achieved on the Subaru is around 23
or 24 MPG.  My long-term average in the Prius is 49.7 MPG -- and
that is after about 13,000 miles.

The Subaru wagon is a fine car -- I have used it for the past four
years.

The Prius is fantastic!  I am leaving tomorrow to visit my daughter
and her family in Pasadena -- I expect to get around 51 or 52 MPG on
the trip (San Francisco to Pasadena/Los Angeles and back).

Since there is only my wife and I, this car is the ideal size -- we
can put all of our luggage and have plenty of room.

The ride is not rough at all -- I generally use a tire pressure of
42/40 (front/rear), which is around 6 or 7 psi more than the
recommended pressures.  This adds somewhat to the gas mileage and
does not really degrade the roughness of the ride.

I am extremely happy with this car -- I have no complaints -- and I
just take great pleasure in filling the gas tank -- after about 450
or 500 miles with 10 gallons of gas.

Good luck!

earle
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Stan and Dee Bringer - 10 Oct 2005 05:55 GMT
On the contrary, when I drove an '05 Prius I rented for three days, I was
impressed with the quiet.  Roll the windows up, turn on the temperature
control system, set the temperature for about 70 degrees and the fan on "2".
I was amazed how quiet the Prius is.

I was thinking when my Prius comes in, about putting it up on jack stands
and coating the undercarriage with asphalted undercoating to make it
quieter!

Stan

> > Hi,
> > I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
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> earle
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richard schumacher - 10 Oct 2005 10:40 GMT
> On the contrary, when I drove an '05 Prius I rented for three days, I was
> impressed with the quiet.  Roll the windows up, turn on the temperature
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> and coating the undercarriage with asphalted undercoating to make it
> quieter!

Others have reported that it doesn't make the car noticeably quieter,
and it certainly makes a mess.
richard schumacher - 10 Oct 2005 10:41 GMT
> Hi,
> I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> think about my observations?
> Thanks

Seems odd.  Prius is one of the quieter cars I've driven.
Bob Wilson - 10 Oct 2005 12:00 GMT
> I just test drove '05 Prius today. I found it very noisy (road noise and
> engine noise on acceleration mostly). It reminded me my old 1995 Toyota
> Tercel. Our other car is 2005 Subaru Outback. Prius seems to be MUCH noiser
> then Subaru.

I picked up our 2003 Prius in Weatherford Texas and drove it 700 miles
back to Huntsville AL. The only noticable road noise came from a stretch
of I-20 in west Louisianna that needed resurfacing and another stretch
where the road joints had gone uneven. It was quite ordinary noise.
However, we have new Michelin tires, the 2003 had 49,300 miles when I
picked it up.

As for engine noise, the only noticable noise came when going up hills
at highway cruising speed, 50-75 mph, when the engine / motor would rev
up. It wasn't loud as much as different from ordinary vehicles. It has a
rumbling quality that at first made me think "are the motor bearings
OK?"  but that was it. We get the same noise going up overpasses on the
Parkway.

> Ride is also a bit rougher (probably because it close to the
> ground).

I had to make a U-turn in Shreveport and scraped bottom on an uneven
patch. No damage but it reminded me to make sure and stay on even road
surfaces.

> It also gives kinda "tincan" feeling (not too offend anyone on this
> group), probably due to close ceilling.

The 2003 cabin seems quite fine to this 6 ft. 240 lb. driver who spent a
lot of time in it.

> The car I tried had 20k on it (used, but still 2005). What do other people
> think about my observations?

You might have added more details about the driving conditions such as
road conditions and speeds and driver dimensions. Also the duration of
the test and any test drive objectives you were looking for. For
example, when I test drove the Ford Escape hybrid, I was looking for its
'motor only' modes, cruise control operation and noise at highway cruise
speed.

Bob Wilson
B. Peg - 10 Oct 2005 13:30 GMT
> "LB" wrote:
> Hi,
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> think about my observations?
> Thanks

To some extent I agree with you on the road noise, most of which seems to be
the fault of the stock Goodyear Integrity tires.  I'm hoping that switching
to another type, like the Goodyear ComforTread, will dampen some of the
noise.  Tirerack.com has the noise listed in their tire comparisons and the
stock Integrity is near the bottom of the list for noise.  Also, a
mentioned, road surface ahs a lot to do with it.  If they neglect to roll it
well it's a bit noisy as are some aggregate surfaces they mix.  I-5 through
California mixes it up a lot and some stretches I wear ear foams to drown
out the noise.

Ride is stiff no doubt due to the new shocks.  However, I do prefer that
over the bouncy and swaying of my older car (it was 11 years old and the
shocks were shot).  The car noise (excluding tire noise) is far less in the
Prius with the exception of going up hills as already mentioned.  It's a lot
better over railroad crossings than my older car that required a good
braking before crossing else it bounced all over the place.

Ceiling is actually taller in the Prius than some others.  Try the new
Chrysler 300 or Magnum if you want a low(rider) roof.  I hit the roof in the
Chrysler without even trying and my knees were into the dash.  The Prius
seems to be around 3" taller.  If you notice you're sitting about level with
some pickup trucks.  The Prius seat is higher than most cars.  I know it's
tall because I have a hard time reaching the center of the top washing it
(I'm 6 foot, btw).  It does give a little top-heavy feel in the canyons
though (it's narrow, although I'm adjusting to that as it appears to be less
likely from door strikes in the parking lots.

It does take some adjusting, but seeing the result on the gasoline credit
card statement makes it worthwhile (mine went from $220 month down to $80).

B~
Paul Missman - 11 Oct 2005 01:38 GMT
I usually have the fan on and the stereo playing.  I don't really notice any
road noise at all in that mode.  A few days ago, I switched off the fan, and
the stereo, just to listen.  There was some road noise, but it was not
bothersom.  My guess is that the folks who have complained about the noise
live in areas where the streets are not perfectly smooth, or they are
sensitive to noise in the frequency band produced by the stock tires.  As
one other person said, you could probably get different tires to fit the
car.  However, you might be trading off road noise for MPG by going to
softer tires.

As to the comment about it sounding like the old Tercel, I understand that
the Prius engine design comes from the old Tercel engine, with some
modernizations thrown in.

Paul
 
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