What are people's experiences with the Prius with air conditioing?
I've read that the gas engine needs to run for the A/C to work, so
how much benefit do you see from having a hybrid in the South where
the A/C is used much of the year? Normally if you're sitting in
traffic the engine would shut down, but if it is needed to run the
A/C do you end up with any fuel savings over a 'normal' car?
I've been considering buying a hybrid, but I'm curious what to
expect in mileage numbers in city driving with the A/C running (and
in South Texas it would be running most of the year).
Thanks,
Frank
Michelle Steiner - 27 Jul 2004 02:29 GMT
> What are people's experiences with the Prius with air conditioing?
> I've read that the gas engine needs to run for the A/C to work, so
> how much benefit do you see from having a hybrid in the South where
> the A/C is used much of the year? Normally if you're sitting in
> traffic the engine would shut down, but if it is needed to run the
> A/C do you end up with any fuel savings over a 'normal' car?
It does not need the ICE to run the A/C. The A/C runs very well off the
battery, but occasionally, the ICE will kick in if the battery's charge
runs down.
I live in the Phoenix area, and the A/C is needed regardless of time of
day; it usually stays in the 90s all night. I've had the car since
Thursday, and am getting mileage in the mid 40s. I'm starting to learn
the gas-saving driving techniques, and have had some periods on the
highway with mileage in the high 50s to mid 60s.

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Mike Reshetar - 27 Jul 2004 14:58 GMT
I live in Southern Maryland where it is muggy most of the summer.
I have used the "Auto AC" feature on my 2004 Prius almost all the time with
resulting gas mileage of 45 to 47 MPG in what I call normal driving.
Recently went on a 600 mile plus trip with the above setting and averages
52.8 MPG for the trip. I have taken the same trip in a 2003 Chevy Malibu and
averaged only 26 MPG. Used AC and cruise control in both cars.
It was a pleasure to fill up only once for the trip. Ooppss, I meant twice.
Hit the final dot on the gas gauge when I arrived back in my home town.
Mike
> > What are people's experiences with the Prius with air conditioing?
> > I've read that the gas engine needs to run for the A/C to work, so
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> the gas-saving driving techniques, and have had some periods on the
> highway with mileage in the high 50s to mid 60s.
Michelle Vadeboncoeur - 27 Jul 2004 17:50 GMT
> What are people's experiences with the Prius with air conditioing?
> I've read that the gas engine needs to run for the A/C to work, so
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> expect in mileage numbers in city driving with the A/C running (and
> in South Texas it would be running most of the year).
Depends on which Prius you're talking about.
On the 2001-2003 Prius, the AC/defroster was belt driven off of the
gasoline engine. So, AC use in summer is fairly similar to heater use
in winter ("waste" heat from the ICE to heat the cabin). The fan will
continue to circulate the hot/cold air. When the temperature of the
changes too much, the ICE will come back on to change the temperature
again. (Just don't use MAX AC, and your system will cycle like this.
MAX leaves the AC on all the time, so your engine runs all the time...)
Mileage won't be as good as if you didn't need to use the climate control,
but it's not outrageous, thanks to the cycling.
On the 2004 Prius, the AC/defroster is electric, run off of the hybrid
battery pack. So, your engine doesn't need to run to power the AC.
(Engine still needed for heat, however.) If the battery charge gets
too low (about 2 bars on the gage), expect the ICE to come back on to
recharge the hybrid battery if you're stuck in a long traffic jam.
GAN - 04 Aug 2004 19:06 GMT
>What are people's experiences with the Prius with air conditioing?
>I've read that the gas engine needs to run for the A/C to work, so
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>Thanks,
>Frank
Go to this Web page to see the technical information on the 2004 Prius
air conditioning system.
http://www.denso.co.jp/motorshow/2003/en/presskit/product_electric/
GAN
Dmitri <Cabling-Design.com> - 18 Aug 2004 22:24 GMT
The page says it's running on CO2 It also states it is the world's first CO2
car A/C unit. It really does sound terrific, but what about service? I can
imagine a mechanic will be literally stunned by half of Prius's features.
So, high maintenance cost is inevitable? How high, can someone share their
experience here? I feel like I'm OK with paying a bit extra for a vehicle
that's easier on the environment, but thinking about maintenance costs
scares me.
Thanks!

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