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Car Forum / Toyota / Prius / March 2006

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Plug-in feature could bolster hybrid models

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Jim Higgins - 23 Mar 2006 12:22 GMT
Plug-in feature could bolster hybrid models
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060323/BUSINESS01/603230540/1014

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OscartheGrouch - 23 Mar 2006 21:52 GMT
> Plug-in feature could bolster hybrid models
> http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060323/BUSINESS01/603230540/1014
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> John Wayne

The good old USA car manufacturers are going to be behind the curve again.
They don't learn. They passed on hybrids originally. "Customers won't buy
them." Until they saw customers buying Hondas and Toyotas, then Ford gets a
first generation hybrid (purchased from japan) and puts it in the Escape,
while we are all buying 2nd generation hybrids. Now domesetic manufacturers
are saying the same thing about these plug in hybrids. They're missing the
boat again. They have stupidity built into their infrastructure. End rant.
Bill - 23 Mar 2006 23:26 GMT
> The good old USA car manufacturers are going to be behind the curve again.
> They don't learn. They passed on hybrids originally. "Customers won't buy
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> They're missing the boat again. They have stupidity built into their
> infrastructure. End rant.
I'm hoping the 2008 Prius will have a plug-in feature.  My mileage suffers
only when I make the 3-mile trip to town, a trip that would then be
all-electric.  Now, I wonder if my power-co-op will let me wire an outlet to
my off-peak panel.
Lynn McGuire - 24 Mar 2006 18:52 GMT
> I'm hoping the 2008 Prius will have a plug-in feature.  My mileage suffers only when I make the 3-mile trip to town, a trip that
> would then be all-electric.  Now, I wonder if my power-co-op will let me wire an outlet to my off-peak panel.

Why not put a solar panel on top of your Prius:
  http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/solar-powered_t.php

Lynn
Bill - 24 Mar 2006 20:11 GMT
>> I'm hoping the 2008 Prius will have a plug-in feature.  My mileage
>> suffers only when I make the 3-mile trip to town, a trip that would then
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> Lynn

As a retired electrical engineer I can't get several factors out of my mind:

1.  It can't be justified by the cost/benefit ratio.
2.  It would have to be insured separately.
3.  I park my car inside and besides, the battery is often nearly "full"
when I park it so even if this fellow had engineered his system to charge
while parked (he didn't) the battery would reach maximum charge quickly.
4.  I can't remember a summer when hail didn't fall where I live.

I do think this was an interesting project and hope it inspires more
practical solutions like, for example, building the solar panels into the
roof and developing batteries better suited to both hybrid and pure electric
motivation.  He's definitely on a good track.
Lynn McGuire - 24 Mar 2006 20:23 GMT
>> Why not put a solar panel on top of your Prius:
>>   http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/solar-powered_t.php
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> panels into the roof and developing batteries better suited to both hybrid and pure electric motivation.  He's definitely on a
> good track.

Add more batteries:  http://calcars.org/priusplus.html  !

Put some lexan over that solar panel.

Lynn
Bill - 24 Mar 2006 20:29 GMT
>>> Why not put a solar panel on top of your Prius:
>>>   http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/solar-powered_t.php
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> Lynn

And that solves the insurance and cost/benefit issues how?
Lynn McGuire - 25 Mar 2006 00:24 GMT
> And that solves the insurance and cost/benefit issues how?

No insurance available for experimental projects !

Experimental stuff usually does not have a cost / benefit analysis
done until the end of the project.  If we weighed cost/benefit on
everything, no one would have kids !

Besides that, you wanted to drive in to town on electric alone.
No cost was mentioned.  The solar panel and extra batteries get
you there as long as you stay below 39 mph.

Lynn
Bill - 25 Mar 2006 00:24 GMT
>> And that solves the insurance and cost/benefit issues how?
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> Lynn

Ok, you win.
 
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