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Car Forum / Toyota / Prius / June 2006Fuel consumption
I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the car really "drinks". What are the real figures for driving at a constant speed of 60, 70, 80 and 90 mph? And what is the "lifetime" average? > "Alive&Kicking" wrote: > I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the > car really "drinks". > What are the real figures for driving at a constant speed of 60, 70, 80 > and 90 mph? In the San Francisco Bay area I saw 50+ mpg, of course the traffic moves slowly there compared to mid-valley I-5 (California's Autobahn) and doing 80-85 there gets about 41 mpg. I'd imagine 90 would put you in the mid- 30's. Now that Texas raised their speed limits to 80 on some stretches of western interstates, I'd bet it will be in the mid-30's there too. City seems to do best, and slower trafficking cities better still. > And what is the "lifetime" average? Dunno. They took that feature off my '05. Maybe 43 mpg for me - but I usually pass everything out there since I own one of those lead foots. Of course, some will lie and say they routinely get 70+ mpg and the few silver ones in the Bay area belonging to some fuel efficiency organization say "100+ MPG" on their doors. You can recognize them by the odd orange hand-wrapped wire spools in the trunk area and a bunch of wires going up front to the driver and a small console. ;o) However, having seen one of those +100 jobbies up close and personal, I'd be willing to bet the owner spends much more time on the little console and looking for an AC wall outlet to steal, er I mean, plug in to. http://www.planetizen.com/node/19829 B~ > I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the > car really "drinks". > What are the real figures for driving at a constant speed of 60, 70, 80 and > 90 mph? > And what is the "lifetime" average? You probably want to look at the mileage database in GreenHybrid.com. In the meanwhile, this is what I use for my 03 Prius: http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/ However, this data is for an NHW11, the 01-03 Prius. The newer one gets better. Bob Wilson >> I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the >> car really "drinks". [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > However, this data is for an NHW11, the 01-03 Prius. The newer one gets > better. What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? >>> I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what >>> the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? Where I live it was $2.75 US yesterday. >>>> I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what >>>> the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? > Where I live it was $2.75 US yesterday. then I guess "Mission Accomplished" it is for GW and DC... >>>>> I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what >>>>> the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Where I live it was $2.75 US yesterday. > then I guess "Mission Accomplished" it is for GW and DC... I've heard talk of hydrogen, ethanol and bio-diesel but our leaders are mostly silent about conservation. The less gas I burn, the less gas costs. It's the law. > "Alive&Kicking" wrote: > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? Depends on where you live. http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/default.asp for U.S. prices. California seems to be the highest (stateside) in the U.S. due to the heavy regulations. The higher prices then spread from the regulations adopted from that state into others (in time). Diesel is frowned upon (emissions) and is often more than lowest-priced petrol grade. Of course, you need to factor in what those in the U.S. pay separately from other countries in the form of insurance for social services that is included in their country's gax tax to make the comparison fair. If you were to remove private insurance and place all taxes into gas as other countries do, then U.S. gas would be around $10 per gallon. Otherwise, Venezuela has nice prices of around $ 0.12 per gallon. B~ . . . > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? June 3, 2003 $2.659 @ Rogers, AR $2.599 @ Forrest City, AR $2.649 @ Burnsville, MS $2.589 @ Huntsville, AL Bob Wilson > > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > $2.649 @ Burnsville, MS > $2.589 @ Huntsville, AL $3.019 @ Chandler, AZ (+/-, depending on the actual gas station)  SignatureStop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush. > > > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > $3.019 @ Chandler, AZ (+/-, depending on the actual gas station) $3.30 (or more depending on station) @ Monterey Pennisula,Ca SignatureMichael LeVine - mlevine@redshift.com "Thirty days hath September, April, June and November. All the rest have thirty one except for Gypsy Rose Lee and every one knew what she had" - Mel Blanc >. . . >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Bob Wilson $2.74 @ Mt. Pleasant Pennsylvania >>. . . >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > $2.74 @ Mt. Pleasant Pennsylvania $2.99 @ Burlington, MA SignatureJean B. Alive&Kicking politely inquired: > What's the actual price for 1 gallon of gas in the U.S.?? $286.9 in Boise, Idaho is about the best you can do without a discount card as of June 9. >I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the >car really "drinks". > What are the real figures for driving at a constant speed of 60, 70, 80 > and 90 mph? > And what is the "lifetime" average? What do you get with the vehicle you use now and what was its EPA rating? I have a diesel, consuming 6,0 liter per 100 km (I live in Belgium!!). EPA is 5,9 l/100km.... EPA for the Prius is 4,3 l/100km. Unfortunately, I don't have a "formula" to convert liter/100 km into MPG (miles per gallon)... "mark_digital©" <xxx976@comcast.com> schreef in bericht news:GdCdndjXSY0uSefZRVn-jg@comcast.com... >>I have the intention to buy a Prius, and I am very interested in what the >>car really "drinks". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What do you get with the vehicle you use now and what was its EPA rating? Alive&Kicking wrote in alt.autos.toyota.prius: > I have a diesel, consuming 6,0 liter per 100 km (I live in Belgium!!). > EPA is 5,9 l/100km.... > EPA for the Prius is 4,3 l/100km. > Unfortunately, I don't have a "formula" to convert liter/100 km into > MPG (miles per gallon)... From the Wikipedia: 1 mile per US gallon = 235.208 liters per 100 kilometers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_superlatives) Later on this page, it is noted that the highest US EPA mileage is 61-66 MPG for the Honda Insight hybrid; this entry notes equivalent EU efficiency figures of 3.9-3.6 L/100lm, so it would stand to reason that: 235.208 / (fuel economy in L/100km) = fuel efficiency in MPG and 235.208 / (fuel economy in MPG) = fuel efficiency in L/100km Therefore: Alive&Kicking's diesel: 235.208/6.0 = 39.20133333 = approx. 39.2 MPG EU fuel economy for the Prius (based on EPA figures?): 235.208/4.3 = 54.69953488 = approx 54.7 MPG Given these figures, the Prius would thus appear to be almost 40% more fuel efficient (54.7/39.2 = 1.395408163 = approx 140%) than A&K's diesel. SignatureGlenn Shaw • Indianapolis, IN USA To reply by e-mail, remove "nospam" and swap "cast" and "net" > Alive&Kicking wrote in alt.autos.toyota.prius: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > fuel efficient (54.7/39.2 = 1.395408163 = approx 140%) than A&K's > diesel. Thank you!!! > I have a diesel, consuming 6,0 liter per 100 km (I live in Belgium!!). EPA > is 5,9 l/100km.... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > "Alive&Kicking" <no.mail@please.aub> wrote in message > > What do you get with the vehicle you use now and what was its EPA rating? The conversion from km/liter is km/liter times 2.38. The EPA mileage numbers are notoriously HI. EPA says Prius gets about 60 MPG - HA! Consumers report quotes an average of 44 MPG, city & highway My 05 gets about 40 - 41 in town but I live at 5200ft and have lots of hills. Just returned from a 3300 mile trip and got about 50. Turn off the air conditioner the get a 1 - 2 MPG boost, if you can take the heat. I'm told using synthetic oil may increase mileage 1-2 MPG Alive&Kicking wrote: > I have a diesel, consuming 6,0 liter per 100 km (I live in Belgium!!). EPA > is 5,9 l/100km.... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > What do you get with the vehicle you use now and what was its EPA > > rating? The conversion from km/liter is km/liter times 2.38. The EPA mileage numbers are notoriously HI. EPA says Prius gets about 60 MPG - HA! Consumers report quotes an average of 44 MPG, city & highway My 05 gets about 40 - 41 in town but I live at 5200ft and have lots of hills. Just returned from a 3300 mile trip and got about 50. Turn off the air conditioner the get a 1 - 2 MPG boost, if you can take the heat. I'm told using synthetic oil may increase mileage 1-2 MPG Want to get 50 mpg? Drive 55. It's as easy as that. > Alive&Kicking wrote: > > I have a diesel, consuming 6,0 liter per 100 km (I live in Belgium!!). EPA [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Want to get 50 mpg? Drive 55. It's as easy as that. You may be right but I'd rather get 50 or a bit less and not have the rearend of my new Prius mashed by the guy behind me. > > Want to get 50 mpg? Drive 55. It's as easy as that. > > You may be right but I'd rather get 50 or a bit less and not have the > rearend of my new Prius mashed by the guy behind me. I get 50 to 53 MPG at 65 MPH. SignatureStop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush. Any idea what the average mileage is for the first 4 or 5 miles, with a cold engine? > Any idea what the average mileage is for the first 4 or 5 miles, with > a cold engine? First five minutes with a cold engine would be anywhere from about 20 MPG to 35 or 45 MPG, depending on the outside temperature and the average speed. SignatureStop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush. > Unfortunately, I don't have a "formula" to convert liter/100 km into MPG > (miles per gallon)... Just be careful about what sort of gallons that you are converting into/from! There's the US gallon, and the Imperial gallon. (The Imperial gallon is about 1.201 US gallons.) http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Fuel_efficiency <quote> To convert x L/100 km to y MPG, perform: 235.2146 ÷ x L/100 km = y MPG (US liquid gallon), or 282.481 ÷ x L/100 km = y MPG (Imperial gallon) To convert a MPG to b L/100 km, perform: 235.2146 ÷ a mpg (US liquid gallon) = b L/100 km, or 282.481 ÷ a MPG (Imperial gallon) = b L/100 km To convert m km/L to n mpg, perform: 2.352146 * m km/L = n mpg (US liquid gallon), or 2.82481 * m km/L = n mpg (Imperial gallon) To convert c MPG to d km/L, perform: 0.4251437 * c mpg (US liquid gallon) = d km/L, or 0.354006 * c mpg (Imperial gallon) = d km/L </quote> You may also like this online converter: http://www.euronet.nl/users/grantm/frans/fuel.html |
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