Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
discount the Prius completely.
> > For three years my 2003 Prius has never taken more than 10.8 gallons for a
> > single fill. It's only reached that amount once. I've filled the tank in
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> mine. His pump is off and you can prove that by going back with a gas can
> that holds a measured amount of gas.
Michael Pardee - 21 Jun 2006 13:49 GMT
Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
discount the Prius completely.
I suspect much of the quirky behavior is in the programming of the display.
It seems to go to great lengths to smooth out its response, even to the
extent that you can add a couple gallons of gas and the display won't show
it. When the level gets lower it seems to get more "real." If that means
changing its mind from saying you had 1/3 tank to only one bar, so be it.
Mike
Bill - 21 Jun 2006 18:40 GMT
Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
discount the Prius completely.
He put in 12.395 gallons, which exceeds the prius capacity.
Bill wrote:
> > For three years my 2003 Prius has never taken more than 10.8 gallons for
> > a
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> mine. His pump is off and you can prove that by going back with a gas can
> that holds a measured amount of gas.
PriusGeek - 21 Jun 2006 19:17 GMT
Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
OTOH, because the Prius fuel bladder is somewhat flexible and because
it is possible to overfill any car, including the Prius, it is possible
that you could get more than 11.9gal into it by pressurizing the
bladder a bit and filling the "neck" to the tank before the pump shuts
down. It could happen. ;-)
> Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
> up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
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> > mine. His pump is off and you can prove that by going back with a gas can
> > that holds a measured amount of gas.
Bill - 21 Jun 2006 20:13 GMT
Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
OTOH, because the Prius fuel bladder is somewhat flexible and because
it is possible to overfill any car, including the Prius, it is possible
that you could get more than 11.9gal into it by pressurizing the
bladder a bit and filling the "neck" to the tank before the pump shuts
down. It could happen. ;-)
From what I understand, the fuel bladder is inside a rigid steel container.
I'm thinking the capacity is figured with the bladder stretched to conform
to it's confinement. But you may be right, the filler neck might hold 3/4
gallon and he may have shut the car off just as it was running out of gas.
mark digital© - 22 Jun 2006 06:31 GMT
> Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
> I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
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> might hold 3/4 gallon and he may have shut the car off just as it was
> running out of gas.
The nozzle was all the way inside the filler, and once it automatically shut
off at 12.395 gallons that was that. I probably would have been spitting
bullets if I had waited another few seconds and it took more in the filler
neck.
Speaking of the gas gauge bars, I figured the first bar would disappear
after many more miles than I'm used to because of this fill up. Fat chance.
First bar disappeared after 90 miles. I've seen it disappear after 130 miles
many times. Hmmm... 90 from 130 is 40. Maybe I was still short 3/4 of a
gallon from a totally full tank.
I should be hearing from the W&M inspector soon.
mark_
Bill - 22 Jun 2006 18:10 GMT
>> Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
>> I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
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>
> mark_
Were you at one blinking bar when you pulled in? I've got to believe that
pump was off.
mark digital© - 23 Jun 2006 09:29 GMT
>>> Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
>>> I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
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> Were you at one blinking bar when you pulled in? I've got to believe that
> pump was off.
Yes. I drove an additional 15 miles so I could get closer to home before
filling.
Yesterday morning I drove by the gas station and the two nozzles from that
one pump were booted (locked out). Now its a question as to how much they
were in error.
About a month ago another pump at the same station failed to stop and
gasoline gushed out all over the ground and subsequently on the bottom of my
shoes. I told the manager and his response was simply to ask for the full
amount. No compensation. Yet it didn't dawn on me afterwards there was a
reason speedy-dri was all over the area when I pulled up to the pump and got
out. So my advice to anyone else reading this is avoid a pump that has some
sort of absorbent on the ground, the station managers and attendants are too
inconsiderate to shut it down.
In the old days it was OK to let the pump be used because it was usually the
customer's fault for gas on the ground. But not nowadays, unless someone
filled a gas can or something else other than a vehicle.
mark_
Michael Pardee - 24 Jun 2006 00:44 GMT
> Yesterday morning I drove by the gas station and the two nozzles from that
> one pump were booted (locked out). Now its a question as to how much they
> were in error.
There was a thread last year (?) about potential errors in gas pumps. The
short of it was that the standards were pretty tight, although they varied
by state. Anyway, one of the newspaper articles a link pointed to indicated
the procedure in the case of a question about accuracy was to take the pump
out of service within 24 hours until it could be scheduled for retest. Dunno
what state that was.
Typical out-of-tolerance results reported were around 1%, although one was
around 5%
Mike