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Jeepers!  $257 gas bill driving my Prius.

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B. Peg - 30 Jun 2006 15:26 GMT
I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
Prius driving?!!

Seems steep, but I guess a car that got less would be worse.  Unfortunately,
it involved a lot of I-5 travels where the mpg drops into the 30's due to
the "flow-of-traffic" speed on that highway and the sweltering heat above
100 degrees which requires the A/C to run constantly.

Wow!  I need a drink.

B~
Bill - 30 Jun 2006 18:57 GMT
>I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
>Prius driving?!!
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>
> B~

A friend of mine drives a 3/4 ton pickup servicing dairy equipment.
Naturally that takes him from farm-to-farm, some at considerable distance
from his home.   His wife commutes 30 miles RT to work.  Their combined fuel
bill is now averaging $400.00/week, so he tells me.
mark digital© - 01 Jul 2006 09:56 GMT
>I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
>Prius driving?!!
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>
> B~

Shall we put that on your tab as well?

mark_
indydoug@gmail.com - 01 Jul 2006 12:40 GMT
For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
the A/C. I'm getting 62.5 MPG this summer because I've changed my
driving habits. Besides, the secondary roads are more scenic and
relaxing.
Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jul 2006 14:15 GMT
> For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
> the A/C.

I invite you to spend the summer in Florida.  ;-)  But seriously, I know
I could get significantly better mileage without the A/C, but then it's
92 degrees with high humidity...

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Michelle Steiner - 01 Jul 2006 14:59 GMT
> I invite you to spend the summer in Florida.  ;-)  But seriously, I
> know I could get significantly better mileage without the A/C, but
> then it's 92 degrees with high humidity...

No A/C is not an option here either.  At 7 AM, it's 85° here.  It will
be 90 by 9 AM, and top out about 115 ± 3°.

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Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jul 2006 15:03 GMT
> No A/C is not an option here either.  At 7 AM, it's 85° here.  It will
> be 90 by 9 AM, and top out about 115 ± 3°.

Ah, but it's _DRY_ heat!  ;-)  (And you must get sick of hearing people
from other parts of the world say that.)

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Michelle Steiner - 01 Jul 2006 15:40 GMT
> > No A/C is not an option here either.  At 7 AM, it's 85° here.  It
> > will be 90 by 9 AM, and top out about 115 ± 3°.
>
> Ah, but it's _DRY_ heat!  ;-)  (And you must get sick of hearing
> people from other parts of the world say that.)

Actually, that's what I tell people from other parts of the world.

There really is a reason we call it Aridzona.

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Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jul 2006 17:38 GMT
> Actually, that's what I tell people from other parts of the world.
>
> There really is a reason we call it Aridzona.

Isn't that pretty much what Arizona literally translates to?

BTW, I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't joined in the Erniemac fun
over in the csm groups.

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Michelle Steiner - 01 Jul 2006 18:14 GMT
> > Actually, that's what I tell people from other parts of the world.
> >
> > There really is a reason we call it Aridzona.
>
> Isn't that pretty much what Arizona literally translates to?

Historians disagree about the origin of the name "Arizona" and its
attachment to the region. Three possible derivations are:

  €  O'odham words "ali son" ("small spring"), actually the name of a
town which is called "Arizonac" in English. Arizonac is a small town
about eight miles (12 km) south of the United States­Mexican border.
Historically, it may have been "ali son" or even "ali sona". The O'odham
"l" is a voiced alveolar lateral fricative, which might sound to a
Spanish or English speaker like an "r" sound. Later in the mid 18th
century Spanish missionaries changed Father Eusebio Francisco Kino's
maps of the area; they renamed the town Arizonac as Arizona. As the maps
were republished and circulated in Europe, the name Arizona became
attached to the whole northern part of New Spain.

  €  Spanish words "árida zona" ("arid zone").

  €  A Nahuatl or Aztec word "arizuma" meaning "silver-bearing".

> BTW, I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't joined in the Erniemac
> fun over in the csm groups.

I did; I suggested that he, John, and Mark form their own newsgroup.  
But the Erniemac stuff seems to have died down in the systems and comm
groups, which are the only two I read.

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Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jul 2006 18:28 GMT
> > BTW, I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't joined in the Erniemac
> > fun over in the csm groups.
>
> I did; I suggested that he, John, and Mark form their own newsgroup.

Ah, yes!  I forgot that I remembered that.

> But the Erniemac stuff seems to have died down in the systems and comm
> groups, which are the only two I read.

Oh yeah, it's largely confined to the apps group, where it's still
burning like a wildfire.

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Michael Pardee - 01 Jul 2006 15:13 GMT
>> I invite you to spend the summer in Florida.  ;-)  But seriously, I
>> know I could get significantly better mileage without the A/C, but
>> then it's 92 degrees with high humidity...
>
> No A/C is not an option here either.  At 7 AM, it's 85° here.  It will
> be 90 by 9 AM, and top out about 115 ± 3°.

But then, you have a balmy afternoon every summer morning in the Valley...
at least for half an hour around dawn. Break out the watermelon and have
water balloon fights instead of showering!

Mike
Dave - 01 Jul 2006 16:29 GMT
> For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
> the A/C. I'm getting 62.5 MPG this summer because I've changed my
> driving habits. Besides, the secondary roads are more scenic and
> relaxing.

As the guy stated it was 100 degrees. When I owned a convertible the top
was down and I rarely used the A/C. But on days that it was over 100,
even I broke down and used the A/C.
Bill - 01 Jul 2006 19:59 GMT
> For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
> the A/C. I'm getting 62.5 MPG this summer because I've changed my
> driving habits. Besides, the secondary roads are more scenic and
> relaxing.

I'm thinking you must have a long commute at an average speed of about 35
mph.  My best tank so far has been 54.8 mpg.  Trips consist of a few 60 mile
trips at 55 mph mixed with a bunch of those uneconomical 3 mile commutes at
55 mph.  Very little city driving.
Jean B. - 02 Jul 2006 18:12 GMT
> For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
> the A/C. I'm getting 62.5 MPG this summer because I've changed my
> driving habits. Besides, the secondary roads are more scenic and
> relaxing.

That's astonishingly wonderful!

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mark digital© - 03 Jul 2006 08:48 GMT
> For best MPG results, stay off the interstate if possible and don't use
> the A/C. I'm getting 62.5 MPG this summer because I've changed my
> driving habits. Besides, the secondary roads are more scenic and
> relaxing.

For sure. But sometimes it's a one lane with a diesel pickup ahead. Happened
to me yesterday and I had to fall back quite a bit or suffer watery eyes.
Then instead of enjoying the scenery I get consumed with wondering when I'll
have the chance to pass.
richard schumacher - 03 Jul 2006 22:43 GMT
> For sure. But sometimes it's a one lane with a diesel pickup ahead. Happened
> to me yesterday and I had to fall back quite a bit or suffer watery eyes.
> Then instead of enjoying the scenery I get consumed with wondering when I'll
> have the chance to pass.

Hint: set the A/C on recirculate.
richard schumacher - 01 Jul 2006 15:57 GMT
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<kwapg.283853$Fs1.205419@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

> I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
> Prius driving?!!

And that represents, what, 4000 miles?  

> Seems steep, but I guess a car that got less would be worse.  Unfortunately,
> it involved a lot of I-5 travels where the mpg drops into the 30's due to
> the "flow-of-traffic" speed on that highway and the sweltering heat above
> 100 degrees which requires the A/C to run constantly.

I wonder what's wrong.  If you're driving in "B", stop it.  When I go 75
MPH in 100 degree heat with the A/C at full blast mine stays above 45
MPG.
B. Peg - 02 Jul 2006 04:53 GMT
> And that represents, what, 4000 miles?

No.  Under 3000 miles.  Seems gas was then high, maybe $3.49 or so where I
live.

Couple with the fact that while on I-5 I often see the mpg gage reading
35-40 mpg.  It's average is 38 mpg on the screen tonight.  I've seen as high
as 43 on occasion, but it is more likely under 40 for me overall.  Part due
to the oppressive heat, constant A/C hum, and most importantly maybe
Interstate 5 where traffic flows up to 85-90 mph as a rule (like anyone goes
75!) in the long Central Valley stretch.  It doesn't like high speedometer
numbers for economy, but it could be worse if it were a Dodge Ram Hemi I
guess!

Those 600 mile one-day outings really do suck up the gas - and I got two
more to do this coming week <argh!>.  Thank God for comfy thick sheepskin
seatcovers and earplugs to drown out the road noise.

B~
Bob Wilson - 01 Jul 2006 20:01 GMT
> I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
> Prius driving?!!
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> the "flow-of-traffic" speed on that highway and the sweltering heat above
> 100 degrees which requires the A/C to run constantly.

Is the oil level above or equal to the F mark?
Are the tires a 42/40?
How long since the tires were aligned?
Are there trucks you can follow, not draft, but get down to 65 mph?
Total miles on vehicle?
Miles since last transaxle oil change?
Model?

The AC is OK but works much better if you can avoid accellerating with
it on. If you can hold off until cruise speed, you'll do much better.

GOOD LUCK!

Bob Wilson
Paul & Laurie - 19 Jan 2007 12:17 GMT
I have a 2005 Prius and used it for long trips and I drive on hot days,
being in Texas.
I have lived in CA and driven I-5, if you drive a Prius like the most of
traffic, you will not see the
high MPGs.

However I can give you some tips:

1) Set your A/C temp to within 20 degrees of the outside temp, this lets the
system step down its speed and load until it cools
the car down. ( The A/C compressor is run by a motor using battery power).
2) Drive in the right lane on the freeway and set the speed control at 70.
On long trips when my wife would drive, she would keep up with traffic,
drive 75, change lanes to pass trucks and the MPG would drop to
39 to 43 MPG. We would switch seats and I would drive and stay in the right
lane and drive at 70, when we pulled in to fuel up the MPG Avg would
49 to 51 MPG. I have seen 59 MPG after 90 miles on a two lane road after
driving from Kitty Hawk, NC down the coast.
3) Never and I mean never change the size or profile of the tires. A tire
store near me told me of an Prius owner who needed new tires and had 205
profile
tires installed (195 is profile from Toyota), he came back after two weeks
and had them install 195 profile, it seemed his MPG was cut in half.
4) Double check your tire pressure, my Prius calls for 35 psi front and
33psi rear, 7 to 10 lbs low can play heck with your MPG. I keep mine at
35 psi front and rear and I had many a time when a oil change tech would
lower it to 32 psi on a hot tire because that's what all the other cars are
set at
and when it cooled and the pressure would 21 or 22 psi.

>I about fell over when I opened the Chevron bill.  $257 for one month of
>Prius driving?!!
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>
> B~
 
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