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Car Forum / Toyota / Prius / May 2007

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AMERICA - suckling at OPEC's tit like a helpless, crying baby.

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geneccc@gmail.com - 07 May 2007 16:35 GMT
Bush holds hands with the Saudi Oil Minister.
Mike Rosenberg - 07 May 2007 17:30 GMT
> Bush holds hands with the Saudi Oil Minister.

And you're posting this to a newsgroup frequented by people who are
actually doing something about it for what reason exactly?

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geneccc@gmail.com - 07 May 2007 18:29 GMT
On May 7, 12:30 pm, mikeP...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg)
wrote:
> gene...@gmail.com <gene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Bush holds hands with the Saudi Oil Minister.
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The SUV newsgroup people won't listen.
DougSlug - 08 May 2007 04:15 GMT
> On May 7, 12:30 pm, mikeP...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg)
> wrote:
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>
> The SUV newsgroup people won't listen.

Gee, there's a surprise.  Hell, half of the Hummers I see have "W" stickers
on 'em.  Can't understand it, and I'll go crazy if I keep trying to...

- Doug
mrv@kluge.net - 08 May 2007 22:46 GMT
And the top 2 countries that the USA imports its petroleum products
from aren't even in OPEC.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imp
orts/current/import.html

Top 15 countries for Jan/Feb 2007:
Canada
Mexico
Venezuela *
Saudi Arabia *
Nigeria *
Algeria *
Angola *
Iraq *
Virgin Islands
United Kingdom
Russia
Ecuador
Kuwait *
Brazil
Trinidad and Tobago
* denotes country is currently a member of OPEC

If you look at totals for all petroleum imports into the US, all non-
OPEC countries combined is more than all OPEC countries combined.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm
geneccc@gmail.com - 09 May 2007 15:43 GMT
On May 8, 5:46 pm, "m...@kluge.net" <m...@kluge.net> wrote:
> And the top 2 countries that the USA imports its petroleum products
> from aren't even in OPEC.
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> If you look at totals for all petroleum imports into the US, all non-
> OPEC countries combined is more than all OPEC countries combined.http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbb...

OPEC or no OPEC, imported oil makes America a suckling dependent.
Mike Rosenberg - 09 May 2007 20:23 GMT
> OPEC or no OPEC, imported oil makes America a suckling dependent.

Okay, so what do you want the readers of this newsgroup to do about it,
buy car that gets 50 MPG?  We've already done that!  So, back to my
original question, why are you posting this here?

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DougSlug - 10 May 2007 02:01 GMT
>> OPEC or no OPEC, imported oil makes America a suckling dependent.
>
> Okay, so what do you want the readers of this newsgroup to do about it,
> buy car that gets 50 MPG?  We've already done that!  So, back to my
> original question, why are you posting this here?

I think he already answered...he's looking for people to accept his opinion.
That's all he can hope to get here.  No opportunities to troll or start
trouble here...it's like trying to start a schoolyard brawl by giving out
candy.  Maybe he's warming up for a good flame war in the Hummer newsgroup.

- Doug
Richard Warren - 10 May 2007 06:06 GMT
>> OPEC or no OPEC, imported oil makes America a suckling dependent.
>
> Okay, so what do you want the readers of this newsgroup to do about it,
> buy car that gets 50 MPG?  We've already done that!  So, back to my
> original question, why are you posting this here?

It took a while but I've finally learned how to maximize my gas mileage.
With the weather warming up now in Pennsylvania, I got 50.6 MPG with my last
tank.  All short trip city driving, 10 miles or less.
 
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