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Prius in snow? Anyone?

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Bill - 30 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT
Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
answer is yes.
e - 30 Apr 2008 03:32 GMT
It's as good as any light front-wheel-drive car, though
you should enhance traction with chains or snow tires.

In my seven decades I've learned that it's the driver
who's "good in the snow". Or not...

Best of luck!

> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> answer is yes.
Bill - 30 Apr 2008 03:41 GMT
Thanks! I've been good at driving in snow, and my favorite was an old
Fiat Strata from 1981. Nothing could stop that car in the white stuff!

>It's as good as any light front-wheel-drive car, though
>you should enhance traction with chains or snow tires.
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>> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
>> answer is yes.
e - 30 Apr 2008 04:30 GMT
If you liked the Strada you'll love your Prius - but be
sure you get traction control. Mine has it, and even
without snow tires or chains it grinds on through almost
anything - snow, ice, sand, mud, gravel.

> Thanks! I've been good at driving in snow, and my favorite was an old
> Fiat Strata from 1981. Nothing could stop that car in the white stuff!
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>>> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
>>> answer is yes.
DougSlug - 30 Apr 2008 13:31 GMT
There have been numerous complaints about the traction control system's
behavior in snow, but quite often the problem is either the stock tires or
steep inclines, which will give most smaller FWD cars a problem.  The
traction control system is not an option; it is part of the hybrid system
because it is needed to prevent damage to the electric motor from
over-revving.

Oddly, we haven't had significant snow in the two winters I've had my Prius,
so I can't offer any first-hand experience.  I did change to better tires,
and I noticed a difference in general handling, cornering and wet
traction--but often the mileage suffers a little bit with better tires.  I
think it is generally accepted that the stock tires (Goodyear Integrity) are
not very good.

If you get lots of snow where you live, it's not clear that the Prius would
be the best choice.  That's strictly my opinion based on what I've read here
and on PriusChat.com, not from experience.  If you haven't already visited
PriusChat, I recommend it for more research on this topic.

- Doug

> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> answer is yes.
Doug - 30 Apr 2008 21:08 GMT
> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> answer is yes.

I've driven in blizzard-like conditions in my Prius. The Prius handles
remarkably well in the winter if you drive with safety in mind.
mark b - 02 May 2008 14:26 GMT
> > Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> > answer is yes.
>
> I've driven in blizzard-like conditions in my Prius. The Prius handles
> remarkably well in the winter if you drive with safety in mind.

I find that with the traction control, I can cruise on snowy highways
in the left lane quite comfortably, and switch lanes over icy bumps
with out feeling insecure.  Next year I will put on snows and I am
sure it will be even better.
Tomes - 01 May 2008 03:22 GMT
> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> answer is yes.

Driving in the snow is our one complaint on the Prius.  My conclusion is
that the tires suck in the snow.  I look forward to wearing them out and
getting better tires, and I am sure that I will agonize over the decision on
what tire to buy.
Tomes
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 01 May 2008 03:26 GMT
> Driving in the snow is our one complaint on the Prius.  My conclusion is
> that the tires suck in the snow.  I look forward to wearing them out and
> getting better tires, and I am sure that I will agonize over the decision on
> what tire to buy.

If you are buying "all season" with the intent of keeping the same tire
on the car year-round, there is no choice:  Nokian WR.

Otherwise, get dedicated winter tires on all four corners and take the
time to switch them on and off each winter.  You'll be very pleased and
surprised at the performance.
e - 01 May 2008 15:48 GMT
This is perfect advice for anyone driving virtually any
car in a 4-season environment.

> Otherwise, get dedicated winter tires on all four corners and take the
> time to switch them on and off each winter.  You'll be very pleased and
> surprised at the performance.
Tomes - 01 May 2008 23:22 GMT
And the way to do it if one is to do it the easy but expensive way is to
have 4 other rims so one only needs to just swap out the whole wheel instead
of breaking the bead on each tire every time.  By expensive I mean the
one-time cost of the rims, which would be offset each year by not having to
pay for tire swapping on rims and balancing.
Tomes

"e" ...
> This is perfect advice for anyone driving virtually any car in a 4-season
> environment.
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>> time to switch them on and off each winter.  You'll be very pleased and
>> surprised at the performance.
e - 02 May 2008 16:41 GMT
I don't think it makes sense to do it any other way.
Lutwak just posted that he got Blizzaks and wheels,
balanced (and presumably installed the first time) for
$600. That's a good choice and a good deal. I drove
another light FWD car on those tires in the mountains
during a very snowy episode, and even on back roads it
was fine.

> And the way to do it if one is to do it the easy but expensive way is to
> have 4 other rims so one only needs to just swap out the whole wheel
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>>> the time to switch them on and off each winter.  You'll be very
>>> pleased and surprised at the performance.
newsgroups.comcast.net - 02 May 2008 00:10 GMT
Last Fall, we swapped on four Bridgestone Blizzaks just before winter, which
was quite snowy here in New England.  The Prius stuck to the road like it
was driving on suction cups. We got the Blizzaks, mounted and balanced on
nice Rial aluminum wheels, for about $150/each from TireRack.

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-RL

>> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
>> answer is yes.
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> on what tire to buy.
> Tomes
Willie K. Yee, MD - 21 May 2008 12:46 GMT
>Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
>answer is yes.

On packed snow and ice, the Prius handles better than most, between
VSC, traction control and ABS. I had to work to make it skid on a test
drive.

It does not do well in deep snow (greater then 4-6 inches) because it
is so low to the ground. On very steep slippery slopes it may have
difficulty. The road to my house had a short grade that I had to get a
run on (going through a stop sign in the process).  If I had snow
tires, I would not have had a problem.

Real snow tires make all the difference.
husbandnextdoor - 26 May 2008 15:26 GMT
> >Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> >answer is yes.
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>
> Real snow tires make all the difference.

My wife's 2007 Touring with traction control and VSC behaves like a
little tractor in snow, on the stock tires.  As they wear I think it
might get worse, and we will probably look for some snows this winter
or the next.  But we are both good snow drivers, and this car is
better than many of the others we've had - BMW, Saab, Volvo, VW.
We're in southeast MIchigan, which can be hilly enough to cause
problems, though it's not Colorado!

I expect snow tires to make a difference.
Troy - 27 May 2008 11:30 GMT
> Is the car good in the snow? I'm going to go soon and get one if the
> answer is yes.

I don't have a Prius yet... we're doing lots of research and waiting
for the third generation. That said, I've always been an advocate of
winter tires. As far as I'm concerned, "all season tires" is just
another way to say "summer tires." I had the opportunity to a number
of winters ago to test different kinds of winter tires on the same
vehicle. I had a car with winter studded tires on, and in February of
that year my wife bought the same car. Studded tires were no longer
available as it was late in the season and dealers were getting there
summer stock in. So we ended up getting Pirelli ice tires. I was
absolutely floored to see how much better her car with the ice tires
was in snow and ice and on hills than my own. Prior to that I thought
nothing could be better than studs. It seemed like having metal spikes
sticking out of your tires, digging into whatever you were driving on
would be about as secure as you be. I really could not believe the
amazing performance of the ice tires.

I agree with many of the other posts, in particular that good driving
habits make for better, safer driving in snow. But, at the same time,
I would encourage anyone who lives in a snowy climate to invest in a
good set of ice/snow tires. There is simply no comparing these to all
season tires.

When I do finally get my Prius, the first add-on I buy will be a good
set of ice tires.

Hope this helps.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 May 2008 12:03 GMT
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<2f138734-9f06-4530-a7d5-5a20c5c4fdce@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

> As far as I'm concerned, "all season tires" is just
> another way to say "summer tires."

That's certainly NOT the case with Nokian WR.  Check it out.

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