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Car Forum / Toyota / Prius / December 2004

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If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all

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Michelle Steiner - 13 Dec 2004 23:06 GMT
In July, I was driving my partner's Scion xB and hit a road hazard (a
tire in the road); the damage to front and back bumpers and part of the
radiator came to more than $2,000; it was covered by the comprehensive
policy, so I paid only the $100 deductible.

In September or October, I hit another road hazard (something flew off a
truck bed) with my Prius.  The front bumper and the left-front wheel
well fairing needed to be replaced.  It came to $970; the deductible was
another $100, but there were two very minor and almost invisible
scratches (on on the driver's door and one at the bottom rear of the
left fender); they credited me with $75 for not having them repainted,
so my cost was $25.

Last week, I hit yet another road hazard in a parking lot; I'm not sure
what it was, but it tore the sidewall of the right-front tire.  Toyota's
road-hazard warranty paid the $89 to replace it.

Day before yesterday, I hit another road hazard on the freeway, almost
in the same spot (but opposite direction) as the one in October.  I
don't know what it was; it was dark, and I heard a thump and the car
shuddered a bit.  It broke the left splash shield and tore part of it
from the clips holding it in place.  The charge for replacing it is
$98.42, which is less than my deductible.  However, the body shop simply
replaced the clips, and the shield is back in place, although cracked in
half.  If those clips don't hold, I'll have the shield replaced.

I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for 3 1/2
years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?

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Mike Rosenberg - 13 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT
> I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for 3 1/2
> years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?

Well, your bad luck began with the Scion, and wasn't that before you
even had the Prius?  I believe that what's happened is that the Curse of
the Bambino has been transferred from the Red Sox to you.

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Michelle Steiner - 13 Dec 2004 23:37 GMT
> > I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for
> > 3 1/2 years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?
>
> Well, your bad luck began with the Scion, and wasn't that before you
> even had the Prius?

True.

> I believe that what's happened is that the Curse of the Bambino has
> been transferred from the Red Sox to you.

Two of those incidents happened before the Sox won the series.

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Mike Rosenberg - 13 Dec 2004 23:45 GMT
> > I believe that what's happened is that the Curse of the Bambino has
> > been transferred from the Red Sox to you.
>
> Two of those incidents happened before the Sox won the series.

Ah, but if the curse was transferred to you back then, we'd have no way
of knowing about it until the Series.

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Michael Pardee - 13 Dec 2004 23:23 GMT
> In July, I was driving my partner's Scion xB and hit a road hazard (a
> tire in the road); the damage to front and back bumpers and part of the
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> I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for 3 1/2
> years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?

Maybe. There isn't any rational reason for it, but I've found a couple of
the cars I've had went through periods of seeming to attract specific sorts
of damages. The most memorable was our '84 Dodge, which went through 4
windshields in as many months. The first was mundane enough - two rock chips
that cracked into each other. The next month a vandal smashed the nearly new
windshield with a rock. That replacement was barely a week old when a large
limb fell off our tree and smashed it. A full month went by before a large
rock was popped up by somebody's tire on the freeway and....

If it is any comfort, the jinxs wore off (or whatever was happening stopped
happening) after 4 - 12 months. Courage, Michelle!

Mike
Kevin Kirkeby - 14 Dec 2004 01:56 GMT
> In July, I was driving my partner's Scion xB and hit a road hazard (a
> tire in the road); the damage to front and back bumpers and part of the
> radiator came to more than $2,000; it was covered by the comprehensive
> policy, so I paid only the $100 deductible.

Something to be said for plastic body parts on plastic cars.

> In September or October, I hit another road hazard (something flew off a
> truck bed) with my Prius.  The front bumper and the left-front wheel
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> left fender); they credited me with $75 for not having them repainted,
> so my cost was $25.

Amazing how much these parts cost, huh? I once had to replace an engine at
14000 miles on a Chrysler. Thank God for warrantees!

> Last week, I hit yet another road hazard in a parking lot; I'm not sure
> what it was, but it tore the sidewall of the right-front tire.  Toyota's
> road-hazard warranty paid the $89 to replace it.

This was the same tire it took toyota four days to get from a regional
distribution center? I hope they'll be keeping one or two in stock from now
on. As these Prius age, they'll need the frest rubber.

> Day before yesterday, I hit another road hazard on the freeway, almost
> in the same spot (but opposite direction) as the one in October.  I
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> replaced the clips, and the shield is back in place, although cracked in
> half.  If those clips don't hold, I'll have the shield replaced.

As a bit of advice to avoid road hazards, as taken from motorcycle and
emergency vehicle operations courses:
   Don't follow too close. By leaving two to three seconds between you and
the vehicle you're following, you give yourself time to dodge
   Always leave yourself an escape route by knowing where surrounding
traffic is located - constantly scan your mirrors
   At night, don't drive beyond your ability to see and avoid hazards.

> I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for 3 1/2
> years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?

George W. for Emperor
Michelle Steiner - 14 Dec 2004 02:05 GMT
> This was the same tire it took toyota four days to get from a
> regional distribution center?

I don't know where they got it from.  I brought the car in on a
Saturday, and they called two local tire dealers to see whether they had
any in stock.  None of them had any.

They had the car ready for me on Tuesday.  So, it did take four calendar
days, but nothing was happening on Sunday, and it was in the late
afternoon when I took the car in on Saturday, so they may not have been
able to order it until Monday.

> Don't follow too close. By leaving two to three seconds between you
> and the vehicle you're following, you give yourself time to dodge

That might have helped with the Scion.  Essentially, the car in front of
me made a sudden lane change to the right, and there was the hazard
right in front of me; car on my right, narrow shoulder on the left, and
car too close behind me for me to stop.

> Always leave yourself an escape route by knowing where surrounding
> traffic is located - constantly scan your mirrors

First incident with the Prius, I tried to do that, but when something
comes flying off a truck bed and hits you a second later, there's no
time to evade, and besides, it was a congested freeway--almost rush-hour
congested.

> At night, don't drive beyond your ability to see and avoid hazards.

If the hazard is visible in the first place.

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nobody@home.net - 14 Dec 2004 02:27 GMT
<snip>
>As these Prius age, they'll need the frest rubber.
<snip>

Hey! Did you see that? Kevin used Prius as the plural! Good for you,
Kevin!

Rod
Kevin Kirkeby - 15 Dec 2004 23:44 GMT
Sounds better than Pruii or Priuses. Kinda like fish, no convenient plurals
are available.

KK

> <snip>
>>As these Prius age, they'll need the frest rubber.
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>
> Rod
SD Seahawk fan - 16 Dec 2004 05:49 GMT
Multiples of fish.....  SCHOOL!

What all the morons who drive gas-guzzling SU-Monsters need to go to teach
them what their selfish environment-destroying little penis-extenders that
have little to no use except to 'DRIVE IN BIG VEHICLE' need to go to:

SCHOOL!  (ok, Enviro-school, but WE all live on the same planet, so we
should FORCE them!)  eh?  eh?

Sorry, been reading this NG for a long time, just needed to respond to that,
since I am a bit of a fish enthusiast... Tropical-fish that is...  my excuse
:)

Alane

> Sounds better than Pruii or Priuses. Kinda like fish, no convenient
> plurals are available.
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>>
>> Rod
Michael Pardee - 16 Dec 2004 14:37 GMT
> Multiples of fish.....  SCHOOL!

A school is a grouping of fish (or "fishes" as my dictionary would have it).
Is a grouping of Prius a "convoy"? And if so, is that a convoy of Prius, of
Priuses, of Prii...? Dang - full circle again!

Mike
Kevin Kirkeby - 18 Dec 2004 03:40 GMT
The wonderful thing about this country is that people can drive whatever
they want. Freedom of choice is a perogative, even if you make the "wrong
choice." While my wife's Prius is an ideal vehicle for her, my Chrysler LHS
(22 MPG Ave) is ideal for me. I am 6'6" tall and when I asked Toyota if they
could move the seat rails on both driver and passenger side back three
inches they acted like I had grown an extra eyeball in the center of my
forehead.

I only drive my Chrysler about 3500 miles per year compared to my wife's
18500 miles per year, so it works well for us. I wish everyone would make
gas saving choices, but as long as there is free choice in the marketplace,
there will be people who choose ten MPG SU-Monsters.

> Multiples of fish.....  SCHOOL!
>
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>>>
>>> Rod
Michelle Steiner - 18 Dec 2004 04:03 GMT
> I am 6'6" tall and when I asked Toyota if they could move the seat
> rails on both driver and passenger side back three inches they acted
> like I had grown an extra eyeball in the center of my forehead.

With all the electronics in and under the seats, I can understand why
they wouldn't/couldn't do that.

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SD Seahawk fan - 18 Dec 2004 10:51 GMT
I just wish the majority of people that I see picking up two bags of
groceries in a super-extendo Chevy Mega-Petro-sucker had this kind of
vision.

I get into this arguement with a lot of people that are trying to 'defend'
their choice in vehicles.  I usually hear that "Well, I have a trailer for
my horses that I need to haul 3-4 times a year" or, "Hey, I have kids that
need to be hauled from point A to point B...bla..bla..bla..."  (and they
don't live in a war zone, only in 'Springfield')

My sister's family raised one group with a Toyota Camry as their main
vehicle (and a Toyota truck as the hauler...on a side note, one of the
'kids' (he's like 27 now) still has the thing, is approaching 300K miles,
and after two accidents too!), and even now raising another kid (long story)
with a Sienna Symphony minivan... and gets the job done as SoccerMom, runs
stuff with her church, and really does not need a monster anything to get
the job done.

Sorry for the  pissy attitude in the first post.  It's just a main pet peeve
of mine to see people that have so much disdain (shall I say HATRED?!?!) for
their own planet, environment and just common sense in general to drive
things like Hummers for no reason more than to say "Hey, I have more money
than brains, and I don't give a sh.t about anything but myself!"

OK, back to lurk mode.... until I am needed again.:)

Alane

> The wonderful thing about this country is that people can drive whatever
> they want. Freedom of choice is a perogative, even if you make the "wrong
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>>>>
>>>> Rod
Michael Pardee - 18 Dec 2004 15:54 GMT
>I just wish the majority of people that I see picking up two bags of
>groceries in a super-extendo Chevy Mega-Petro-sucker had this kind of
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Alane

It's going to be hard to get rid of our full size Volvo wagon. It isn't the
sheer capacity that is important, but the ability to hold long or large
objects. In the past month, ours has brought home a 35" tv (tight squeeze,
there), two furniture boxes that hadn't a prayer of fitting into our Prius,
and a Christmas tree. It also carried two loads of trash to the dump. But
most of the time I use it for my 3 mile commute - bicycle in summer, 20 mpg
wagon in winter.

Same applies at work. I don't usually need a 10 mpg 4X4 F350, and I wish I
had something more civilized to take down the long highways. A lot of my
sites are more than a hundred miles by paved road. But once I get off road,
especially to some of the sites where the 4X4 is barely adequate, or
carrying large equipment, there is no substitute.

My point is that it isn't always practical to use a small car for the normal
stuff and have a workhorse for when it is needed. Vehicles are expensive to
own and maintain, and they have to be insured whether they are used once a
day or once a month. It is presumptious (and uncharitable) of us to judge
people when we see an under-utilized vehicle. My neighbor has eight
children, and I sure don't begrudge them their Suburban even when they are
going to the store alone.

Mike
Joker - 19 Dec 2004 13:05 GMT
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 08:54:54 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
>It's going to be hard to get rid of our full size Volvo wagon. It isn't the
>sheer capacity that is important, but the ability to hold long or large
>objects.

I brought home the Christmas tree in the Prius and closed the hatch
completely.  I did, of course, have it wrapped in a plastic sheet to
not get stickey sap everywhere.  It did come up to the front of the
car, but it did fit.
Michael Pardee - 19 Dec 2004 14:08 GMT
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 08:54:54 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
>>It's going to be hard to get rid of our full size Volvo wagon. It isn't
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> not get stickey sap everywhere.  It did come up to the front of the
> car, but it did fit.

That's good to know - we have hopes of being able to get a new Prius in
addition to our 2002 a little while after our daughter is out of college and
away from home :-)   Of course, there won't be any trees carried in our
2002... maybe on top. Or maybe bonsais. Or those little car fresheners.

Mike
Mike Rosenberg - 19 Dec 2004 15:04 GMT
> Of course, there won't be any trees carried in our
> 2002... maybe on top. Or maybe bonsais. Or those little car fresheners.

How about shoe trees?

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Michael Pardee - 25 Dec 2004 03:10 GMT
Just an oddity, but worth telling...

My son was driving his Acura back to Flagstaff from Phoenix earlier this
week. Just before sundown he was on the freeway north of Phoenix when he saw
something emerging from under the truck in front of him and rolling right at
him. He had just enough time to try to straddle whatever it was when it hit
with an enormous bang! He got off the road and found something like a brake
drum jammed in the front air inlet opening. He couldn't dislodge it, but it
stopped a couple inches short of penetrating the A/C condensor so he drove
the rest of the way home that way. It took two of us struggling to spread
the opening and wrench the debris out.

Sometimes I think clean underwear should be part of road emergency kits.

Mike

> In July, I was driving my partner's Scion xB and hit a road hazard (a
> tire in the road); the damage to front and back bumpers and part of the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I had not had any damage to my previous car, which I had owned for 3 1/2
> years.  Is my Prius jinxed or something?
Michelle Steiner - 25 Dec 2004 08:42 GMT
> My son was driving his Acura back to Flagstaff from Phoenix earlier
> this week. Just before sundown he was on the freeway north of Phoenix
> when he saw something emerging from under the truck in front of him
> and rolling right at him.

I-17, same freeway where I had my accident, but mine was at about Indian
School Road.

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